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Old 01-21-2007
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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So you'd actually vote Republican?

I guess our party atracts all sorts! But then again you see no difference between the GOP and Dems do you? Just a general irrational hatred of U.S. policy right?


To me all domestic politics, in every country, is mainly just childish bickering over petty differences. They are all in it for the same thing, for the same end. I don't find partisanship to be all that interesting or important. I find myself liberal on some issues, conservative on others, libertarian on some, and radically green on the fundamental long term concerns. And it could all change overnight.

I like Hagel for one reason. His opposition to the War in Iraq is currently the most articulate and realistic that i have heard from anybody in Washington to date.

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Atleast Condi is smart....Hillary is just a dumb fool. Condi would have a way better chance at winning an election among smarter America then Hillary would. The majority of Hillarys votes will be because she's "Hillary" and not because she could actually run this country. Condi has far more credentials to run this country then Hillary does, I dont care what the left says....Put Condi's resume up against Hillarys betty crocker ass, Condi is by far the better choice of the 2.
Transcript of the Meet the Press interwiew with Dr. Rice on Sunday, March 13, 2005

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MR. RUSSERT: Before you go, let me show you some photographs on the screen: Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Van Buren, Buchanan. What do those six men have in common?

DR. RICE: Oh, Tim, that's too tough for a Sunday morning.

MR. RUSSERT: They were all presidents of the United States that were at one time secretary of state.

DR. RICE: Ah, OK. All right.

MR. RUSSERT: In light of that, I was up on the Internet last night and found this Web site, www.americansforrice.com. And it features these bumper stickers and this song.

(Audiotape):

Unidentified Man: (Singing) Condoleezza will lead us. Sister, don't you worry about a thing.

(End audiotape)

MR. RUSSERT: Should that Web site be removed?

DR. RICE: Look, it's freedom of speech. But let me say, I don't have any desire or intention of running for president. I've never wanted to run for anything, and I just don't have any desire to do it.

MR. RUSSERT: Desire or intention?

DR. RICE: Both.

MR. RUSSERT: There was a great American named General William Sherman. and this is what he said, "If nominated, I will not accept. If elected, I will not serve." Will you issue a Shermanesque statement?

DR. RICE: Tim, I don't want to run for president of the United States.

MR. RUSSERT: "I will not run"?

DR. RICE: I do not intend to run for--no. I will not run for president of the United States. How is that? I don't know how many ways to say "no" in this town. I really don't.

MR. RUSSERT: Period? Period? I will not run as president of the United States.

DR. RICE: I have no intention. I don't want to run.

MR. RUSSERT: "I will not run."

DR. RICE: I think people who run are great. I don't want to run.

MR. RUSSERT: That is a Shermanesque statement?

DR. RICE: Shermanesque statement.

MR. RUSSERT: You're done. You're out.

DR. RICE: I'm done.

MR. RUSSERT: There's news.

DR. RICE: I hope not.

MR. RUSSERT: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice who just said she will never run for president, correct?

DR. RICE: Tim, why do you keep pressing me to make these statements?

MR. RUSSERT: Well, because if you're secretary of state, will it affect your ability...

DR. RICE: I don't want to run for president of United States. I have no intention of doing so. I don't think I will be president of the United States ever. Is that good enough?

MR. RUSSERT: And you will never run?

DR. RICE: I don't intend to run.

MR. RUSSERT: But it's different.

DR. RICE: I won't run.

MR. RUSSERT: Oh, we got it.

DR. RICE: All right. There you go.

MR. RUSSERT: Thanks very much.
I don't think Condi has any interest in being the president of the USA.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Here's a thought. What if this changes Cheneys mind?
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Here's a thought. What if this changes Cheneys mind?
From what to what?
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From what to what?
From Darth Vader to a Klingon?
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From what to what?
From not running for President to running for President.
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To me all domestic politics, in every country, is mainly just childish bickering over petty differences. They are all in it for the same thing, for the same end. I don't find partisanship to be all that interesting or important. I find myself liberal on some issues, conservative on others, libertarian on some, and radically green on the fundamental long term concerns. And it could all change overnight.

I like Hagel for one reason. His opposition to the War in Iraq is currently the most articulate and realistic that i have heard from anybody in Washington to date.

Andrew
Abortion, gun control, tax rates, economic policy, capital punishment, civil rights, global warming, these are petty issues?
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Abortion, gun control, tax rates, economic policy, capital punishment, civil rights, global warming, these are petty issues?
Yes. Only because nothing ever really changes unless it has to. Take global warming for an example, eventually (like now) it will be obvious to everybody that something needs to be done, and than it ceases to become a partisan issue, people just respond.

Same with civil rights.

Taxes, i could care less, it comes and goes.

Abortion, same sex, gun control, these are just wedge issues used to rally the masses at election time.

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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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Obama's not in the old guard. Another reason why we should vote for him.
I would say it is the other way around. You have to have a lot of experience if you are to be well qualified to be President of the United States. If you have that much experience, you cannot help but being in the old guard.

Barack Obama might become a good Democratic Presidential Candidate in 2016 or 2020, I do not think he is experienced enough to stand a chance in 2008.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm a C-Word"

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I really hope she is the nominee!!! She'll make McGovern look like a hero!!
You mean she'll make George McGovern, Distinguished Flying Cross, 35 B-24 combat missions, look like a hero?
I thought the DFC and the 35 combat missions made him look like a hero...

goober, have you ever considered that there may be a difference between being a war hero and being a political hero?

George McGovern was so leftish, he made Nixon win in 1972 by a landslide. If there'd been another Dem. candidate in 1972, that candidate might have won and the Watergate affair would not have been such a big thing.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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From not running for President to running for President.
Never happen. Not with that heart of his (yes, he has one). Public would never elect him.


Honestly, I can't say that I've ever met anyone who had something to say about Dick Cheney.
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From not running for President to running for President.
Then we all have a good laugh and go back to looking at realistic candidates.
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From not running for President to running for President.
Interwiew with Cheney of Fox News Sunday

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By 2009, I'll be 68 years old. And I've still got a lot of rivers I'd like to fish and time I'd like to spend with my grandkids, and so this is my last tour. I don't plan to run for anything.

WALLACE: But there a couple of points I guess I would raise there. One, you say that, you know, you don't want competing agendas by 2007-2008. The president's agenda will have been pretty much accomplished. Given your obvious commitment, the depth of your feeling about these issues, given the dangerous world we're in, perhaps if the president were to ask you, would you reconsider?

CHENEY: Chris, I will have been at this business off and on for most of the last 40 years. And I've loved it. It's been a hell of a career. I will say just as hard as I possibly know how to say -- I don't know whether you want me to take a Sherman...

WALLACE: That'd be good.

CHENEY: ... or say, "If nominated, I will not run," "If elected, I will not serve," or not only no, but "Hell no." I've got my plans laid out. I'm going to serve this president for the next four years, and then I'm out of here.
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From Darth Vader to a Klingon?
Looks more like he is going from Darth Vader to Grandad. He's got too much fishin' to do with the grandkids. No time to be President.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Well, she better start digging up dirt on everyone else. Obama's smoking, Edwards ruining the environment with hairspray, Richardson and his DOE failure and womanizing ways.

I wonder who dies first?
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Posters are up the the same old same old.................

same shite just a different day, most here can not stay on topic..

Just why should one vote for Clinton?
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