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Old 01-22-2007
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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Posters are up the the same old same old.................

same shite just a different day, most here can not stay on topic..

Just why should one vote for Clinton?
she has a vagina? Or does she?
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Is that the reason? She has an Inny? and not an outty?
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Is that the reason? She has an Inny? and not an outty?
I don't know any other reason. SHe is a far left liberal who may or may not have a vagina. Other than the genitalia (possibly), she is just a white version of Obambi.
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I think at this point there needs to be a focus on an immediate increase in spending and I think this is a time when deficit fear has to take a second seat . . . I believe later on there should be tax increases. Speaking personally, I think there are a lot of very rich people out there whom we can tax at a point down the road and recover some of the money."
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Amusingly, Hillary's approval number is now only 3 points higher than President Bush's.

Yep - her approval rating is now only 36%.

The Driveby Media likes to tell us that Bush's approval rating is "very low". Funny how it doesn't like to tell us the same thing about Hillary.

BTW, Obama's approval rating is even LOWER than President Bush's. Obama's approval rating is only 29%. Yet to hear the Driveby Media talk, you'd think Obama was the best thing since sliced bread....

Poll: Democrats Favor Clinton Over Obama, New York Senator Has 17-Point Edge Over Illinois Counterpart In Match-up Of '08 Frontrunners - CBS News
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Old 01-23-2007
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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Interwiew with Cheney of Fox News Sunday



I don't think Cheney is going to change his mind.

Looks more like he is going from Darth Vader to Grandad. He's got too much fishin' to do with the grandkids. No time to be President.
I think the fact that he doesnt want to be President makes him better qualified. We need someone who is there because the job has to be done, not because they want the power, like Hillary.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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I'm not so sure of that. And Clinton woudn't run if she thought she couldn't win--she's too savvy to be that kind of fool.
'Well, she certainly is both savvy and shrewd, but she also wants power as all politicans do. There is obviously always a risk in an election. I can't believe she is stupid enough to think she will win easily.


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To date, I'm still looking at who is going to be the Republican candidate for 2008 who can both clear the primary and then gain enough support to win the national election. Who is that person going to be? Anyone have thoughts on that?
McCain can bring the party together and has the charisma and the crossover appeal. I would like to see Chuck Hagel take the nomination: he is solid as a rock, has courage and intelligence and is a decent, honorable man. He also is the spitting image of my Dad. So what, you ask? I think that is important for a lot of people: after Bush and Clinton's "repellent little boy" antics, I think the country is looking for someone with gravitas and maturity, and will not indulge their own vanity as Bush and Clinton both have.

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Hillary, if she wins the primary, will likely get most of the Dem vote anyway on party lines by default unless the Rep candidate has some major overriding appeal.
There are Dems who would vote for McCain, Hagel or Giuiliani. But in general, I agree. Hillary is beloved by the Dems. She is the real thing: a genuine big-government liberal, regardless of any comments to the contrary. And they know it.



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Most Reps will likely vote against Clinton also on party lines. She wouldn't be concerned about those voters or their negative remarks because she already knows they are not obtainable votes anyway.
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The key are the swing and independent voters.

The majority of those have been tracking left since Bush who is still in office like an albatross over the heads of those who survived the Congressional cleanout.
I disagree with you on this. Tracking left? Voting against Bush is not a sign of turning left. (I wonder how many Dems think this is the case? It isn't.) You need to spend more time with conservatives.... I know several of the type you mention personally, and the possibility of voting for Hillary is unimagineable.

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He will not be running, but it sets the tone all the way through the election because he will be the POTUS. I mean, John Kerry--a person who I think Terry McAuliffe described right as having committed some of the biggest political malpractice of all time in wasting gift horse advantages to lose in 2004--got 48% of the vote, and most did that just because he was not Bush. That is how toxic the air has been
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Yes, but he and his entire administration is history in 2008. When was the last time that was the case in an election?

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Many of those independent voters are also younger or career single women, a favourable pool for her if the Republican candidate will be a social conservative, something I think the candidate would need to be to clear the primaries and get the base motivated. I'm sure that Hillary also noted that she drew well and/or chipped away noticeably in the traditionally very Republican 'red' areas of rural upstate and western New York in her Senate races through women voters.
Again, you are underestimating how intensely disliked Hillary is, and my experience is that women dislike her far more than men. She is a hypocrite: claiming to be a feminist, yet accepting her husband's cheating and abuse of other women; supporting high taxes while playing the commodity markets like a (rather sleazy) pro, and cashing in; promoting women's rights while coming to power through her husband.

She plays the "poor little me - brave victim", then switches to the "powerful woman abused by men" routine. There isn't a word of truth in it, of course. Her followers know this game well, and they play it with shrewdness and, of course, the worshipful attention of the media. (How many fan magazine covers can Time and Newsweek run on her?)

She has had no serious competition at any time in NY.

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Politics can change in a week, and a good scandal or something can change whole pictures rapidly, but she is not a forgone loser by any means. That is why I am really curious as to who will finally be the Rep candidate for 2008--it's a critical choice.
If the GOP candidate is a poor one, she might get through, but only if Republicans stay home in droves. And I say it will be exactly the opposite. I will quote Rak here:

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i dont ...........i truly believe hillary will be the best thing for politics if she is the nominee....MOFO's who have never voted will vote just to block that lady
That is exactly right. Hillary is the anti-candidate, everything conservatives dislike - the distilled essence of big government leftism. And she is a Clinton. Republicans will line up just to make sure that they do their part to make certain she loses.

As for the economy - Hillary's infatuation with big government and her contempt for the markets (outside of her own profits, of course) will send the financial markets into convulsions.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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I think the fact that he doesnt want to be President makes him better qualified. We need someone who is there because the job has to be done, not because they want the power, like Hillary.
If you had 4 heart attacks, were in your late sixties, and had grandchildren...

What would your agenda be for your future.

Fishing with the grandkids or killing yourself in the Washington political mishmash and scurrrying around the country in a political campaign?

I think Cheney has made a wise choice. He has served his country more than we can ask of any man already. 40 years.


Let it go man, he's not going to run.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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Haha goes to show how strong your will is in the Democratic party then! Look at what the fuck you guys have said about George Bush and yet look how loyaly the GOP stands behind him, or has to this point and how loyal he has been to various people! I guess we should just get scared and nominate John McCain in return for a like to like match up! The minute she wins the nomination is the minute we retain the Presidency! Her announcing her running is great news, now we can start to figure out the proccess of which Republican will suceed George Bush. Its gonna be Rudi i think, with Condi as VP i think or maybe one of the U.S. attorney's in the day of prosecutorial career.
All I have to say is.... ANBODY but the members of the current administration. Haven't we had enough of them?
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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If you had 4 heart attacks, were in your late sixties, and had grandchildren...

What would your agenda be for your future.

Fishing with the grandkids or killing yourself in the Washington political mishmash and scurrrying around the country in a political campaign?

I think Cheney has made a wise choice. He has served his country more than we can ask of any man already. 40 years.


Let it go man, he's not going to run.
I agree, I just think that disgust with govt is what we need in a candidate.
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I agree, I just think that disgust with govt is what we need in a candidate.
You think Darth Cheney is disgusted with himself?
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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If you had 4 heart attacks, were in your late sixties, and had grandchildren...

What would your agenda be for your future.

Fishing with the grandkids or killing yourself in the Washington political mishmash and scurrrying around the country in a political campaign?

I think Cheney has made a wise choice. He has served his country more than we can ask of any man already. 40 years.


Let it go man, he's not going to run.
Fortunately. If Cheney ran, the GOP could forget the White House and the rest of the government for a while.
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FOXNews.com - Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton Announces White House Bid - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

There you have it folks. She's officially in the race.

Personally I think she's doing it just to get back at Bill. She wants to go around in Air Force-1 and leave him at home to take care of the holiday decorations!

On a more serious note, I don't think she has a chance of becoming the next president. So I really hope she get's the democratic nomination.
She doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell. I'll be surprised if she even gets the nomination.

She fudged her chances at becoming president YEARS ago in many different ways. Watch what comes to the surface as time moves on. This WILL be most entertaining to see
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Amusingly, Hillary's approval number is now only 3 points higher than President Bush's.

Yep - her approval rating is now only 36%.

The Driveby Media likes to tell us that Bush's approval rating is "very low". Funny how it doesn't like to tell us the same thing about Hillary.

BTW, Obama's approval rating is even LOWER than President Bush's. Obama's approval rating is only 29%. Yet to hear the Driveby Media talk, you'd think Obama was the best thing since sliced bread....

Poll: Democrats Favor Clinton Over Obama, New York Senator Has 17-Point Edge Over Illinois Counterpart In Match-up Of '08 Frontrunners - CBS News
Dude, those are not approval ratings... those are opinion polls for who's favored to be the Democratic Candidate in the '08 race.

Very apples and oranges there, so comparing the #s is spurrious.
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Dude, those are not approval ratings... those are opinion polls for who's favored to be the Democratic Candidate in the '08 race.

Very apples and oranges there, so comparing the #s is spurrious.
I've tried to explain the problem with his numbers several times, he just doesn't get it.
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