What I find fascinating about Alex's post is how so many on the right attack us on the left saying we just insult and don't address the issues. Pot? Meet kettle.

__________________
When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

Or when one sees that that is all that goes ON as substitutions for true arguements, then that becomes the chosen default method for all to USE.

Yes, it's very TRUE that much of this insulting garbage comes largely from the left.

Why ?

Because they're pissed off and hating the fact that their ideas are being roundly rejected for the general nonsense that they ARE.

And so the right has either left, or lowered it's standards of debate to the same levels used by the left.

As demonstrated by the midterms.

__________________
"Jesus said: I have cast fire upon the world, and behold I guard it until it is ablaze."
Gospel of Thomas

Yes, I understand.

I understand why you entirely missed what I was talking about

It's Ok

He's a conservative so the problem is probably in the fact that he's a conservative. They don't hold much stock in book learnin'.

__________________
Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

What exactly is the issue? Hillary says she's running. What is there to discuss? My earlier post was humorous, if you took it as an insult, well, that's your problem. If you seriously want to discuss an issue that is germaine to Hillary's announcement, I'm game.

__________________
I think at this point there needs to be a focus on an immediate increase in spending and I think this is a time when deficit fear has to take a second seat . . . I believe later on there should be tax increases. Speaking personally, I think there are a lot of very rich people out there whom we can tax at a point down the road and recover some of the money."
-- Barney Frank, October 20, 2008

I answered the post - in considerable detail.

__________________
"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

One of Hillaries (and liberals) ideas and why it doesn't work:




The ideological concept of "universal care" looks right, sounds moral, and feels good. ....The problem is that history shows these programs do not work.

They have failed in Canada, Great Britain, France, Germany, and Sweden.

Coverage has become too costly in Massachusetts in less than a year.

The etiology of health-care fever is always insufficient funds. The governor's plan is estimated to cost 12 billion a year. But if you believe that number, we have a long wide concrete bridge over Newport Bay to sell you for 23 bucks.

When the level of money injected into the blood sinks too low, the medical outcomes are rationing and restraint, accompanied by chronically high moral dilemmas. Medical care will be rationed, one way or another, so long as the government has finite resources and so long as people keep confusing insurance with fee-for-service.

Now, according to a recent release by the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, it is failing in Japan.


If universal care were the genuine cure-all, the one country where it should work is Japan. They have a homogenous population, healthier lifestyle, eat more fish and soy, more vegetables and far less obesity than here.

If universal care does not work there why should it work anywhere?

Universal Health Care Spreads

Here's just one reason people do NOT want to consider Hill-o-beans and her nutty ideas for president.

The issue? The typical bullshit characterization of strong women as masculine. Instead of attacking a position, you attack her because she's strong.

__________________
When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

She isn't STRONG.

She's a B-I-T-C-H.

There ARE strong women.

They aren't bitches like hill-o-beans.

They generally aren't STUPID either.

Like hill-o-beans.

Hmm. She's articulate, a good speaker, an accomplished attorney, and a US Senator. You've resorted to name calling. Guess who impresses me more?

__________________
When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

Well, it was a joke. If you are so offended, maybe you have issues with humor?

Anyway, Hillary is far from strong. If she were really strong she would have the courage of her convictions and be the liberal that we all know she is (like Nancy Pelosi or Barbara Boxer- those are strong women!). Instead, in an effort to make herself more 'electable', she has gravitated to the center and is a soft as a marshmallow. It is all carefully orchestrated and as bogus as her denials of her husbands extramarital, ahem, activities. Fortunately this subterfuge is destined to fail because most people see right through her. I would have far more respect for her if she wasn't such a phony.

__________________
I think at this point there needs to be a focus on an immediate increase in spending and I think this is a time when deficit fear has to take a second seat . . . I believe later on there should be tax increases. Speaking personally, I think there are a lot of very rich people out there whom we can tax at a point down the road and recover some of the money."
-- Barney Frank, October 20, 2008

She is one that got some one to step aside so that she could run for a senate seat , and not from her home state... then after one term she is now running for what?,,,,, oh that's right President... now what about the people that said yes to another 6 years... what does that say..

sorry but I was only using New York as a stepping stone in my drive for power.....

__________________
Fear the Government

It's not funny, though. Or, at least, it's as unfunny to me as racist or other bigoted jokes.

__________________
When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

maybe you have a broom up your ass then? why don't you go find a room to sweep up?

__________________
I think at this point there needs to be a focus on an immediate increase in spending and I think this is a time when deficit fear has to take a second seat . . . I believe later on there should be tax increases. Speaking personally, I think there are a lot of very rich people out there whom we can tax at a point down the road and recover some of the money."
-- Barney Frank, October 20, 2008