You sound surprised...Most of the liberals on this site absolutely hate america with a passion I'll never understand. Regardless of what americans do it's always wrong and evil.

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Well, America is not without blame. It was the Administration (or whatever government authority it was), who handed the guy over to Syria, a country who is supposedly a member of the "Axis of Evil"... apparently that's no hindrance in working with them, I see.

And I don't think it's about "hating America" (at least, not for me). It's about expecting more from a Democratic and civilized country, to actually uphold it own laws and not bypass them by shipping people off to cruel and brutal dictatorships like Syria. It's wrong of Syria, sure, but it's more to be expected of them to do this kind of thing, than it is of the US.

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What specific law do you think was "bypassed" by the US?

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Well, I'm no legal expert either in Danish or American law, but I don't think there's any legal precedence about torturing people (which I'm pretty sure they do in Syria, although some people on here makes it sound like Syria apparently aren't that cruel a country anymore). Furthermore I also think it's pretty much against the law to extradite a person to another country, a country with which you got no agreements or treaties about extraditions, especially seeing as he had no trial or nothing.

Last, the guy is neither an American, nor a Syrian citizen, so I fail to see what legal jurisdiction they have over the guy. Had he been caught redhanded on a battlefield fighting troops, then the US would have a say. All they had here was hearsay and they should have coordinated it with Canadian authorities. But apparently the rule of law isn't something that concerns certain rightwingers on here.

But come on, you can start your "You obviously hate America" speeches now

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Can you back up your claim that he wasn't a Syrian citizen?

From what I've heard he is a Syrian draft dodger that went to Canada.

He was born in Syria.

I mean I reealize that life is very hard for people in leftolands like Syria, I know a very successful business lady who escaped from Syria very intimately.

She won't even talk about the horrors in that leftoland. She says it hurts her to even think about it and she gets angry and screams that they are "terrible people, horrible beyond what you can imagine" if I even mention Syria.

It's something that she wants to forget. She is an American now.

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I didnt say that. I said terrorists were muslims.

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The "axis of evil" was Iran, Iraq, North Korea. Bush never included Syria, although maybe they should be.

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According to the article he was born in Syria, and thus a Syrian citzen. He also has dual citizenship with Canada. Perhaps someone could some up with some information from the US as to why he deported to Syria, rather than Canada. I assume Canada was consulted as to what to do with him when they told the US that he was under suspicion.

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come on now. last time i heard the US doesn't detain and interrogate people for draft dodging the syrian military. and there's never been any mention by syrian authorities of being charged with any crime whatsoever. if he was avoiding compulsory military service, that is a crime, and surely they would have charged him. why no mention of any criminal actions by him whatsoever?

And if he escaped/fleed Syria, isn't he actually one of the good guys? Isn't that something we should acknowledge and condone, that he actually had the guts to get away from one of the more brutal regimes on this planet? You know, instead of sending him back without any legal proceedings, because his name was on a list?

I have no problem with watchlists and such, but the people behind have to be very careful that no mistake like this is made. Otherwise it will totally undermine the population's trust in the fairness and effectiveness of the system in place. Besides, if all they go by is the name (I don't know how it's done)... well, many people are shit out of luck the day Mr. Smith and Mr. Jones are on those lists!

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We don't hate america. Bush is not america. War is not america. Arrogance is not america. You live in a wonderful country, yet you never recognized what it stands for. People like you try to defend america through destroying everything america stands for. What happens if the worst of your kind prevail shows the history of my people.

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Syria is a leftoland country. An individual has no rights in leftoland. In other words they can legally do whatever the fuck they want to him.

That may be a hard concept for those who take liberty for granted to understand.

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And that's someone the US (or any Western country for that matter) should get in bed with? I've yet to see any conservatives condemn this and say "Ok, maybe someone screwed up here!"... are people really that biased (whether it's to the Left or the Right) that they can't admit that people, whatever side they're on, make mistakes?

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Have any of you actually read the commissions report on Arar, or just taken the medias word for it in 30 sec soundbites?

http://www.ararcommission.ca/eng/AR_English.pdf

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Taken from the report (admitting I haven't read it all, as it's about 380 pages long...):

"Mr. Arar has never been charged with any offence in Canada, the United
States or Syria. Indeed, although RCMP officers conducting a terrorism-related investigation were interested in interviewing Mr. Arar, they did not consider him a suspect or a target of that investigation. They wished to interview him as a witness because of his associations with certain other individuals. I have heard evidence concerning all of the information collected about Mr. Arar in Canadian investigations, and there is nothing to indicate that Mr. Arar committed an offence or that his activities constitute a threat to the security of Canada."

So, he wasn't considered a threat. But just to make sure, we'd better ship him off for a round of torture, because we all know how successful that is in getting the truth out of people.

Even if he was guilty of something, wouldn't the right thing in a country based on the Law be to put him in front of a judge? When did that little tradition get thrown out the window? And before someone goes "He wasn't a US citizen, so shoot him" just think about it... is that really what you people want? A society where people get their punishment before having been found guilty of anything?

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