So? Both parties have their cover-ups. It's a known fact.

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Uh yes. Yellow Journalism was perfected by the New York Times and is credited with whipping up war fever to take on the Spanish.

IN fact I was going to point out the NY Times role in the Spanish-American War to demonstrate that the press has never been an agency of good.

The problem that you have with this argument is that in today's world you don't have to rely on a single omnipotent paper like the times or listen to the skewed musings of someone like Cronkite.



That is not the purpose of the FCC.

The FCC liscenses radio station and those are private liscenses and the FCC does not have the right to interfere with the Rush Limbaugh program or the Michael Savage program or the Sean Hannity program unless they violate some rule of decency or incite riot or something like that.

The real problem is that those three abovementioned programs are all Conservative and that is what is bothering the libbies.

The libbies said that the only problem was that they had never attempted to use the AM radio band as a way to reach their peoples.

Air America failed and it wasn't the first attempt.

the problem there is that the libbies like Franken simply don't understand the phenomenom of talk radio. They think that some guys show up and spout some hate talk and then go home. But the three that I mentioned are all smart people. Arguably any one of them is smarter than Randi Rhodes or Al Franken or any of the other losers that were on Air America. Especially Janie Garofolo {first name deliberately misspelled}.

Why do you think that the FCC should force political content?


Should the FCC regulate and impose a fairness doctrine on moveon.org for example?

Should moveon have to put forth a fair and balanced site?

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As far as I'm concerned, Texans love Texas more than America. But, that is besides the point. Any question as to why you think that Texans get text books more often? Text books vary around the US, you know. History has changed an assload over the last few centuries. Who knows what children are taught in each state? PBS is a publically funded station, yes, but Bush is pretty much taking the funding that viewers pledge. That is just a rude thing to do in my opinion. He should be taking funding from MTV or E!. That station is a piece of crap and offers no educational purposes whatsoever.

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Honestly I don't watch ANY network news.

I find it tiresome whether it is FOX, CNN, Bill Moyers whatever.


Are you one of those people that see a fascist around ever corner?

And what kind of fascism are you fearful of ?

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I read my own articles?

Do you think that I write articles and then read them? because that is what your wrote.

Anyway, I read the Chronicle and my local paper everyday. I read the Economist, Time, Newsweek, and Business Week, Foriegn Affairs. I occasionally read the NY Times, the WSJ, and the LA Times.

I don't get news from the tv. I don't watch PBS ever.


You are basically accusing me of massaging my own biases so I will accuse you of the same thing.

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Point of order,

Hearst hyped the exciuse for war not in the NYT, but in the defunct 'New York Journal American.'

Here's an excellent short site that showcases the point I'm making: (From Yellow Journalism and The Spanish American War):

The pen is mightier...

How journalism influenced the Spanish/American War

he press played a tremendous part in leading the charge toward America's involvement in Cuba. Two publishers, William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer, stood out among these opportunists. They perceived the conflict with Spain as their chance to increase circulation of their newspapers. Seizing upon the opportunity to capitalize on the growing spirit of American patriotism, Hearst and Pulitzer printed sensational anti-Spanish stories. Graphic illustrations commissioned from some of the country's most-talented artists and stories written by premiere authors and journalists of the day were fodder for fueling the flames of war. Together, Hearst and Pulitzer created a frenzy among the American people by reporting the alleged brutality of the Spanish toward the Cuban rebels. (However, acts of outrage committed by the Cubans were seldom mentioned.) By the time the USS Maine exploded in Havana Harbor, the pro-war press had roused national sentiment to the point that President McKinley feared his political party would suffer if he did not engage in war with Spain.

Should moveon have to put forth a fair and balanced site? FenianForever #77.

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The answer is 'yes'.

What the Fairness Doctrine said is that 'news' versus slanted news/opinion/ propaganda was the mission of the public airwaves.

Since that was overturned by the courts in 1987 (Ronnie Rayguns) it has not been a matter of 'truth' or 'news', but instead a matter of who has the bucks to saturate the airwaves so that their propaganda becomes the 'news'.

And as we've seen in Madison, and with Ed Schultz, it's all a matter of station ownership versus profit.

Oh now you are the moderate?

From your posts it would seem to me that you think Bush and the Repubs are the only scandalous group.

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Joao, you know you need to attribute your cut and pastes.

If you can't bother to attribute it, don't post it.

Matt

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I stated that everyone has opinions based on what they hear and what makes sense to them. You are no different. Everyone has pre-determined opinion and they solidify those opinions by reading books that can do so. Selective listening, fenian. I didn't say I was an exception to the rule.

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Matt,
I did attribute it. (#81).

The info is from a site titled 'Yellow Journalism and the Spanish American War')

Put it this way, I don't like politicians period (other than FDR who was a rare gift to this country) but I know I cannot stand Republicans. Especially Bush.

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- George Orwell, 1984

Per the forum rules, you must provide a link.

You selected the whole web page, blank space, menu items and all and did a cut and paste.

Since we know that you know how to cut and paste, we know you can provide a link.

All you have to do is highlight the address in your browser and cut and paste.

Matt

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[quote=IronMaiden27;918824]Well that is an interesting point. And that might even be true of that state because of its unique history and the fact that it is the only state that can leave the union were it so disposed.

I don't agree with you.

I see the situation where liberals from the city are more in love with themselves and their ideology than they are with the rest of the nation.

They are the ones that called everything between NYC and LA flyover country.

Do I have any questions? NO.


The average age of a textbook in a California school is 13 years old.

I mentioned this little fact because Bush was governor of Texas and I think that the people of Texas put more emphasis on education than do the people of California for example.

Historically, Texas has been more "conservative" than California even when Texas was run by democrats they were more conservative. As far as demos go I like the ones that come out of Texas for the most part.
What a profound statement.



It is a relatively easy thing to know.

Each state has a board of education that keeps stats on things like textbooks for example. That is how I know that Texas replaces their texts every other year while California doesn't replace them even when they are falling apart, despite the fact that California's budget is dedicated 50% to education before anything else happens.

Bush is taking it?

What he do? Go into commie headquarters with a gun?
What an elitist. Anyway the government does take money from those two entities...they are called taxes.


So? People want to watch it. What about freedom of speech?

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So, links are noew required.

Okay, but it still won't make-up for knowledge.