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Old 02-13-2007
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Re: North Korea is ready to behave..Thanks George!

I love the sound of it, but I think that madman midget would rather burn in hell than adhere to the provisions.
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wont matter bush could cure aids and people would say he sucks and that

"aids will rebound later"

I doubt this is more than NK needing some rice......but in the end if it isnt will any bush hater give him credit?

that would be a now
I still don't understand what you're giving GW credit for? He had nothing to do with this deal. Never did, never would, never will. GW hates negotiating, diplomacy is for liberals, GW is a war president.

Bush couldn't cure jock itch, let alone AIDS.
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Re: North Korea is ready to behave..Thanks George!

Here is why:

The left has been calling for one-on-one negotiations with NK to reach a comprimise.

GW said no. It must be a coalition of Nk's neighbors.

The left cried and begged GW to comprimise with NK.

He again said no.

NK's neighbors continued to pressure NK, and finally NK has agreed to end its nuclear ambitions.

That is why. IF GW had succumbed to the left's pressure for a surrender to NK, they would never have agreed to end their nuclear program.


Simple. Quite easy to understand.
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DOES TRAITOR BILL SLIP YOUR NARROW MIND LIBBY BOY?? DOES BILLY SELLING HIS PALS THE CHI-COMS A GUIDANCE SYSTEM FOR THEIR NUKE MISSILES THAT "MAY" KILL YOU AND YOUR KIDS SOMEDAY RING A BELL? WHAT ABOUT BILLY TAKING MONEY FOR HIS RE-ELECTION FROM CHINA?

OH DID I MENTION HE IS A SICK FUCKING SEX PERVERT, RAPIST, MOLESTER, AND POSSIBLE PEDO????????????

YEP HANDS DOWN THE WORST TRAITOR COCKSUCKING POTUS IN HISTORY AND THE "BLAME" FOR TODAYS PROBLEMS!!!!!!!
That would be Bush darling. Bush who started a war in Iraq on a lie, because the Senate Republicans (bless their hearts) kept GW's war powers scope to Iraq. Wolfowitz, Rummy, and Dick wanted GW to have war powers for the entire region: Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, UAE, etc...

Then we got an Attorney General who's "legal" wiretapping scheme is put back under FISA just before it gets the constitutional smell test in the Supreme Court; not so legal anymore without FISA, huh? I doubt much of anything this administration has done since it stole office, is legal or constitutional, if put to the test. But all we got in Washington are a bunch of yellow bellied scum, who haven't got a clue what America stands for anymore, so tyrannical traitorous scum like Bush and Cheney won't get a single day in court; such a shame.

You know, you can scream all you want, and in fact all you are doing is frantically typing with your caps lock on, which is really annoying, because it shows a total lack of self restraint and decorum. But hey, who gives a flying fuck, what you think about Clinton, or anything, Bin Laden's got you scared like a little baby, and you think Bush is the only one who can save you. I feel sorry for you, and your fellow fear babies.

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Here is why:

The left has been calling for one-on-one negotiations with NK to reach a comprimise.

GW said no. It must be a coalition of Nk's neighbors.

The left cried and begged GW to comprimise with NK.

He again said no.

NK's neighbors continued to pressure NK, and finally NK has agreed to end its nuclear ambitions.

That is why. IF GW had succumbed to the left's pressure for a surrender to NK, they would never have agreed to end their nuclear program.


Simple. Quite easy to understand.
Says you. Thank you Carnac the Magnificent.

Again, Bush hates to negotiate, and hates diplomacy, he doesn't make informed decisions, and he hates facts, he is the war president, the decider.

This deal is strikingly similar to the one Clinton tried to get congressional approval from a Republican't congress. Gee if the Republican'ts had only granted Clinton that deal, instead of that moronic impeachment, there might not have been a North Korean nuclear weapons program today.

But I understand, Republican'ts don't like any ideas that aren't there own, and if they do, they won't tell you until you're not looking, then they'll claim that they're their ideas.
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Kim Jung has to verify demolition of the plant. This is a back-end loaded deal, not a front. If the wants the total package he has to verify. This was not the order of events during the Clinton administration.
I know, but if he does demolish it, it makes me wonder where he hid all the technology. The real test here is when we find out he is working underground, will we do something about it.
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I still don't understand what you're giving GW credit for? He had nothing to do with this deal. Never did, never would, never will. GW hates negotiating, diplomacy is for liberals, GW is a war president.

Bush couldn't cure jock itch, let alone AIDS.
So, if someone in the executive branch does something bad, its the "bush administration? If they do something good, "he has nothing to do with it". Typical neolib.
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So, if someone in the executive branch does something bad, its the "bush administration? If they do something good, "he has nothing to do with it". Typical neolib.
Bingo. You just hit the nail on the head.

The neolibs are such laughable frauds.

Plus they are cowards - they attempt to pass meaningless "resolutions" in the House and the Senate, while never once passing a resolution supporting our troops or calling for our soldiers to win the war in Iraq. Hey, if the Dems really think the "right" thing to do is Cut N' Run in Iraq like they thought the "right" thing to do was Cut N' Run in Vietnam, then let the cowardly Dems introduce, and vote in favor of, a bill cutting off funding to the war!

But they won't, because the Dems are cowards and laughable frauds.
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I still don't understand what you're giving GW credit for? He had nothing to do with this deal. Never did, never would, never will. GW hates negotiating, diplomacy is for liberals, GW is a war president.

Bush couldn't cure jock itch, let alone AIDS.
thanks for proving my point for me angry....

i didnt give GWB credit...i said if it does work and he did do it people like you wouldnt give him credit

and you once again showed i was right....thanks
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Re: North Korea is ready to behave..Thanks George!

But you aren't giving him credit, as you just stated. So looks like we are all in the same boat. What gives?
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But you aren't giving him credit, as you just stated. So looks like we are all in the same boat. What gives?
Angry American said Bush is not a negotiater, and that he has nothing to do with the North Korea deal, which back this up. We are not giving Bush credit for solving anything, because this deal wont solve it. However, we are disagreeing with AA that Bush does not negotiate, as NK is obvious proof. no deal can happen without Bushs consent. Talks with NK can not even start without Bushs consent.

So, to summarize, AA is wrong, and no matter what Bush does, he will never get credit.
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Angry American said Bush is not a negotiater, and that he has nothing to do with the North Korea deal, which back this up. We are not giving Bush credit for solving anything, because this deal wont solve it. However, we are disagreeing with AA that Bush does not negotiate, as NK is obvious proof. no deal can happen without Bushs consent. Talks with NK can not even start without Bushs consent.

So, to summarize, AA is wrong, and no matter what Bush does, he will never get credit.
But what credit does he deserve? This is what we always have to do when NK starts dicking with us. We shut them off financially and ban their trade. It's a given. Sure, Bush does have the final say and if he did it, he is credited for it, but since when does he deserve extra credit or renown recognition? What is the miraculous deed here? Is it because he finally does something right that this is supposed to make him a better president? It really changes nothing.
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But what credit does he deserve? This is what we always have to do when NK starts dicking with us. We shut them off financially and ban their trade. It's a given. Sure, Bush does have the final say and if he did it, he is credited for it, but since when does he deserve extra credit or renown recognition? What is the miraculous deed here? Is it because he finally does something right that this is supposed to make him a better president? It really changes nothing.
He gets credit for consistently using diplomacy instead of violence, as NK proves. Our disagreement is with AA, who said he never uses diplomacy and had nothing to do with NK.

I dont think he gets extra credit, it is simply what is expected. It is AA who is trying to take the expected credit away.
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Well, he really doesn't use consistent diplomacy. That's the difference and I think that is why people are more reluctant to give him credit.
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I agree completly with Bolton. We should not negotiate with evil-doers and terrorists. Bush should be ashamed to be linked with the same sort of appeasement as the Great Satan, Bill Clinton.
Finally someone who agrees that this is a big mistake.
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