From what I heard, Kin Jung wants $300,000,000 dollars and NK will dismantle their nuke programs in a phase-process. Each phase, he wants more $$. We have no one else but Bush to partly blame because if you think about it. Kim Jung waited until the time was right to hit us up for cash. Think about it - Bush brought out the whole WMD ordeal with Iraq and now Kin Jung probably thought that he would be able to hit us up for money by claiming he wants to negotiate in order to shut down his WMD program. Now that half the world has us by the balls, he knows that he could possibly get away with this ordeal and make out in dough BIG time. What other choice do we have? We cannot invade them too... we're too occupied in the ME to start a beef with NK. The guy may be crazy, but he's not stupid.

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Originally Posted by jviehe
So, if someone in the executive branch does something bad, its the "bush administration? If they do something good, "he has nothing to do with it". Typical neolib.
RESPONSE Since when is this something Good. ?????


Kindly look in the mirror.

Bingo.

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Ah, so now we're back to finding something to criticize Bush for. Lets see:

1. Bush gets no credit for the deal
2. if the deal fails, its Bush's fault
3. if it suceedes. it was in spite of something Bush did wrong
4. we shouldnt have needed a deal, cause this NK getting nukes is Bushs fault

Really, whats the point of debate any more?

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

Sheesh I was just playing "connect the dots"

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Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.

- George Orwell, 1984

Was it this difficult for you in kidergarten as well? Because you sure are having a lot of trouble connecting the CORRECT dots.

When you don't connect them correctly, you get a distorted image, you know.

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You borrow that last sentence from Rush and insert GOP for Liberal assholes?? If so try your own thoughts, if you actually had any!

Oh study up on Clinton and Traitor-Treasoner he was the no good asshole!!!

Whatever the case, North Korea can make all the fucking agreements they want. I'll just assume they are being disingenuous and have no intention of keeping their side of the agreement until I see them take some action. Action like shuting down their nuclear program and proving it to the world.

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and when you don't open your mind and analyze a situation or event instead of taking everything you see at face value, you get a distorted outlook, you know. So of course, anything I say isn't going to make sense to you. Let me know if you would like me to explain it in simpler terms.

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- George Orwell, 1984

Adding shit that is not there, and inserting your "feelings" as fact pretty-much destroys your ability to correctly connect the dots, you know.

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I never said it was fact. I said that it was a NOTION. Jeepers.

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- George Orwell, 1984

Just as when you said "We did not invade Afghanistan" you weren't stating it as fact...just notion...right?

/chuckle

Ok

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Yes, and I think you've just identified to us the reason for your distorted outlook.

I agree. They've agreed to stuff before and been down the road a lot further before changing their minds, so we will see what happens...

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Agreed, all they have to do is submit to whatever the IAEA wants. It is that simple. Unforunately this wont change their massive abuse of human rights.

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.