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Old 03-02-2007
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Re: Al Gore bypasses airport security

I believe this is why they call it "policies"...that procedures are always followed without exception.

Can anyone say, without exception, that is not possible for someone to plant something inside a carry-on that the passenger does not know about??
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Search what for what?

Probable cause for what?

You're post makes no sense. What the heck are you talking about?
Well, whenever a person bypasses security, they tend to shut down the airport and search it for suspicious items.

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Re: Al Gore bypasses airport security

Anyone actually read the story? It doesn't appear to me that Gore requested that security be by-passed - does it to you?

But the thing I noticed ... Al Gore was catching a flight on a commercial jet!! I got the impression (in another Gore-bashing thread) that the guy only flew on private jets.
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Re: Al Gore bypasses airport security

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Anyone actually read the story? It doesn't appear to me that Gore requested that security be by-passed - does it to you?
Did he decline the special treatment? Or was he unaware that people are generally required to go through security measures? Wouldn't that make Al Gore "out of touch"?

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But the thing I noticed ... Al Gore was catching a flight on a commercial jet!! I got the impression (in another Gore-bashing thread) that the guy only flew on private jets.
Well, first of all, I don't think anyone has ever said he ONLY flys private jets, merely that he DOES fly on private jets frequently (for nothing more than his own convenience). But, I would be willing to bet heavily that even when flying commercially, he is slamming his fat ass down in first class....representing a bigger carbon footprint than those flying coach!

And speaking of Al's fat ass...wonder how much of a carbon footprint all of the food he is apparently consuming is leaving behind!
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Re: Al Gore bypasses airport security

QUOTE=MattLarson;936390]What makes you think I am upset?

Matt[/quote] Maybe your accusitory post????? FOR NO "RESONABLE PURPOSE"
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Maybe your accusitory post????? FOR NO "RESONABLE PURPOSE"
What are you talking about?

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My concern is that an airline employee would do this for a terrorist.
Exactly. That's why all this beefed up security bullshit makes me feel no safer. It seems to me that a well-financed terrorist outfit would simply bribe its way past all that, while I'm standing there, in my underwear, holding my shoes and laptop, being semi-violated.
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He's a private citizen, why should he not be screened like everyone else?

More "do as I say, not as I do"?

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After reading the story, I was left with the impression that it was an airline employee who caused the security breach, not Gore. The story mentions that when Gore was ordered to go through security, he complied fully.

This is a nothingburger.
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After reading the story, I was left with the impression that it was an airline employee who caused the security breach, not Gore. The story mentions that when Gore was ordered to go through security, he complied fully.

This is a nothingburger.
Partisanship aside - this is not nothing.

An airline employee made an exception in procedures that are there to save lives, where would one draw a line between when to enforce and when not to enforce?

In my book - Al Gore has nothing to do with this, what concerns me is that security policies were set aside.
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Exactly. That's why all this beefed up security bullshit makes me feel no safer. It seems to me that a well-financed terrorist outfit would simply bribe its way past all that, while I'm standing there, in my underwear, holding my shoes and laptop, being semi-violated.
Ya, just like my wife being on the no fly list. She works for the government and has to travel to DC alot. It's hilarious when she goes somewhere with gov bigwigs and she has to go through extra screening.

Or my friend in the army that had to take off his boots to go through security, meanwhile carrying his rifle.
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Are you suggesting that airport screenings should be something other than completely random or mandatory? What makes Al Gore less of a risk than you or me? ANY answer to that question would involve the dreaded PROFILING!!!! Which we are supposed to believe is just plain wrong!
Actually, there are already airlines giving people special passes to avoid security. All they have to do is pay $100 a year and go through the same security clearance procedures paperwork-wise as a TSA employee and they by-pass the megs, the x-ray machines... all of it. It's called pre-screening.

That said, I truly hope you're not serious about whether or not Al Gore is an equal security risk as someone off the street, walking into an airport. Do you know the types of security clearances he had to go through when he was VEEP? Come on.

That said, it doesn't appear that anyone in Gore's camp made a request to go around security. Seems it was just some well-meaning airport employee who will now most probably lose his job.

I'm with Birdzeye on this... it's a non-sequitur.
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Re: Al Gore bypasses airport security

When Gore Becomes President of the United States hes gonna TAX Airport CEOs TO DEATH!!!
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That said, I truly hope you're not serious about whether or not Al Gore is an equal security risk as someone off the street, walking into an airport. Do you know the types of security clearances he had to go through when he was VEEP? Come on.
Yes, I know them very well. They simply do a credit check, check criminal records and interview people that know him. It's not as glamorous as you think. In fact, my wife is investigated more thoroughly than he is. Yet she was on the no fly list, for no other reason than her name is similar to a person of interest.
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Partisanship aside - this is not nothing.

An airline employee made an exception in procedures that are there to save lives, where would one draw a line between when to enforce and when not to enforce?

In my book - Al Gore has nothing to do with this, what concerns me is that security policies were set aside.
Well, I agree with you. I should have made it clear that, from the standpoint of looking for some excuse to bash Gore, this was indeed a nothingburger. The security breach was done by an airline employee, and clearly someone else was doing his job, spotted the breach, and had Gore go through security. It also sounds like the airline is dealing with the employee.
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Ya, just like my wife being on the no fly list. She works for the government and has to travel to DC alot. It's hilarious when she goes somewhere with gov bigwigs and she has to go through extra screening.

Or my friend in the army that had to take off his boots to go through security, meanwhile carrying his rifle.
And I bet your wife will never be able to straighten out that being on the no fly list either.

I haven't been very happy about having to take my shoes AND glasses off to go through security.
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