She will. Once they find this person.

My friend wears special shoes for the airport. Leather ones and no socks. LOL!

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Lt. Gov Diane Denish on Bill Richardson "The governor, she said, "pinches my neck. He touches my hip, my thigh, sort of the side of my leg."

Wow... I guess I should thank my lucky stars I haven't wound up on the no-fly-list somehow. Of course, we might both be on it for our next flights for talking about it here

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I know the normal TSA check isn't particularly glamorous. My husband had to go through it. However, Gore's screening, I'd wager, was a bit more stringent.

Sorry your wife has to deal with the no-fly list. Unfortunately, no one wants to exercise common sense or perhaps they're afraid of acting independently. But I've heard of children on the no-fly list who were kept from getting on a plane with their parent. Truly absurd. And, yes, just because of a shared name.

Well, if Gore and all of his entourage were pre-screened (something liberals opposed by the way because it makes life easier when some poor people are ill-equiped to afford such treatment) then I will take back what I have said vis-a-vis his special treatment.

No, but I was making the point that those who treat PROFILING as something inherently wrong are engaged in it themselves when they question (as samantha did) the utility of searching people like Gore (where as those of us who openly support profiling make the same point about a 80 year old native-born grandmother of 5 being as likely to be patted down by security as a muslim national of Syria are somehow racist or discriminatory).

None. Security clearance requirements are statutorally created. As a Constitutional Officer, neither the President or Vice-President (nor any member of Congress for that matter) need to get security clearances for their jobs. In fact, it was pointed out when Clinton was elected and sworn in the irony of someone with his background being President when it was an open question whether he would have gotten the required security clearances for many of those in the Executive Branch he was the head of.



I would agree if and ONLY if Al Gore was completely unaware that he was receiveing special treatment. Something that I would find highly unlikely given the media coverage of what people have to go through these days unless he is utterly and completely out of touch.

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The funniest part was when we discovered she was on it. It was 5:00am, we were on our way somewhere and had our 6 month old daughter with us. My wife is a very "normal" looking girl. Blonde, blue eyes, long hair, no tattoos or anything... very normal and conservatively dressed, looking. Me, on the other hand, heavily tattoo'd, baggy dickies shorts, baseball cap bill flipped up, hoodie, goatee.... just overall punk. The skycap is checking us in and says, "Sorry mam, but you must go through extra screening." We ask why and he tells us. Then he says, "This whole TSA crap is just that. You're a very sweet, normal looking lady, then there's this guy" and nods to me, "yet we don't give him a second look."

Then he took us to the front of the ticket line to get us our special screening and he made $20.

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Lt. Gov Diane Denish on Bill Richardson "The governor, she said, "pinches my neck. He touches my hip, my thigh, sort of the side of my leg."

I thought you were talking about security clearance checks. They're really not that big of a deal. Heck I pass them and I've done alot of time when I was younger.

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Lt. Gov Diane Denish on Bill Richardson "The governor, she said, "pinches my neck. He touches my hip, my thigh, sort of the side of my leg."

Generalizations probably aren't such a good idea. I don't have an objection to pre-screening. I think buying that privilege isn't particularly different from being able to afford to sit in first class instead of coach. (And I do suspect you'd consider many of my views "liberal").

I also don't have a problem with a degree of profiling. On the other hand, I heard about someone who would very much NOT have been profiled, but her boyfriend put an explosive in her bag. But as a general rule, I think people can make certain risk assessments. The problem arises if they miss the dangerous person/people by doing it or whether profiling becomes a de facto means of harassment.

Now *that's* interesting. I didn't realize that, but I suppose it makes a degree of sense given the election can't be undone due to any security issues and our representatives can't do their jobs without information. Thanks for pointing that out. Went right past me. (On the other hand, I just had saki with my lunch. heh!)

The only information I have with regard to the situation is what was contained in the OP. There is nothing there to suggest that any request was made for special treatment beyond the norm. Did he know he was receiving special treatment? I'm not really sure it matters because if the group was told to follow the employee, it would have been easy to make the assumption that this is how it had been decided to deal with his entourage at this particular airport.

Your right. The screener could have got hit with a cell phone or something for daring to do his job…

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Then it's a non issue isn't it? Gore was screened. Airport person needs re-training. Problem solved.

Right?

We’re not mad, we’re laughing our asses off that he had to be lead back from the gate to the terminal because he isn’t important anymore… Ha ha ha ha, how embarrassing…

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Yup. Non-issue.

Matt

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There is nothing wrong with Generalizations as long as they are presented and accepted for what they are, general observations, with the likelyhood that they do not always hold true and that there are exceptions. But liberals in general treat profiling as though it is simply wrong and not worthy of discussing as an option

At which point, you revise your profiles accordingly. That is what profiling is, but liberals would have us exclude fundamentally important parts of the profile in the name of some bizarre sense of justice. If you are looking for muslim terrorist, the likelyhood that a syrian named mohammed who is travelling with cash purchased tickets is your target is much greater than a grandmother from Michigan name Mabel is.

Saki is ALWAYS a valid excuse!


Yes, but that does not preclude them from realizing that they have been singled out for special treatment. Do you think if it had been just the opposite, that Gore's entourage had been held and strip searched that they would have just innocently assumed that this was simply how it was decided to deal with his entourage by this airport, and that they had not been singled out for special (albeit in a bad way) attention or treatment?

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----Denny Crane

Fair enough. I, however, think profiling has some validity. I also think the terms "liberal" and "democrat" are improperly used in an interchangeable fashion.

Actually screeners already give speacial treatment to people who buy tickets with cash; buy one-way tickets; buy tickets the day before, etc. So in that regard, there are already some intelligent decisions being made in terms of risk-assessment, for what it's worth.

Thanks for the pass.

I don't really have a problem with a bit of special treatment. I assume it happens on a fairly regular basis. On the other hand, let's be realistic. Should a former VEEP of the U.S. and his entourage, including his security detail, be subjected, or assume they should be subjected to detention and strip search?

Al Gore sure is getting a whole lot of attention around here lately and it is all from the right. Is he a threat or are they more interested in picking on former political leaders than discussion current issues with those that are actually in office or running for office.

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Or maybe it is well founded attention given such facts as Al Gore being invited testifying before a House Committe on the threat of global warming. Given that he has ZERO academic or professional credentials from which to knowledgably discuss the science, one can only assume that our CURRENT political leaders (the liberal ones anyway).

But then this is the political party that brought us such intellectual powerhouse witnesses on such important issues as:
1. Meryl Steep on Nuclear Safety because she acted in the movie Silkwood
2. Sissy Spacek on Agricultural Policy because she was in the movie The River

What's next, Richard Dreyfuss on secret governmental UFO programs because he was in Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Or how about Julia Roberts on the legalization of prostitution, it sure worked out damn well for her in Pretty Woman!

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