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Old 03-02-2007
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"We let the soldiers down"

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"From what I have learned, the problems at Walter Reed appear to be problems of leadership," Gates said.
From what I have learned I have to agree. All the way to the top.

Tell me now and tell me true- who really "supports the troops"?

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No The Media let the troops down because of Liberal Reporting. See if Bush would had put the rules back as they were back in WWII the Media would be following goverments strict orders not to cover the war. Just like FDR did. Back in those days in WWII American media didnt have the freedom to cover the war.Back in those days when a commanding officer tells the reporter to leave he better leave or he will go to jail and they know it too.We have gave too much freedom to the media.Its now time to add some laws.If i was the President id say,,From Now on the CO commanding officers have all the power just like the LAPD has too much power.If the CO Commanding officer tells the cameraman to shut off the camera he better do it. Or the Commanding Officer takes that camera away from him and Shoot it up. And If he orders you to leave the area and you go somwhere else to report he can arrest you and youll go to iraqi Jail with the rest of Al Queda guys.These are strict rules i approve for the media to follow.
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Re: "We let the soldiers down"

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No The Media let the troops down because of Liberal Reporting. See if Bush would had put the rules back as they were back in WWII the Media would be following goverments strict orders not to cover the war. Just like FDR did. Back in those days in WWII American media didnt have the freedom to cover the war.Back in those days when a commanding officer tells the reporter to leave he better leave or he will go to jail and they know it too.We have gave too much freedom to the media.Its now time to add some laws.If i was the President id say,,From Now on the CO commanding officers have all the power just like the LAPD has too much power.If the CO Commanding officer tells the cameraman to shut off the camera he better do it. Or the Commanding Officer takes that camera away from him and Shoot it up. And If he orders you to leave the area and you go somwhere else to report he can arrest you and youll go to iraqi Jail with the rest of Al Queda guys.These are strict rules i approve for the media to follow.
Yeah, right, Steveox. And if this hadn't been brought to the attention of the American People by the media those soldiers- the ones you ostensibly support- would continue to convalesce under those conditions.
You fear the light of truth, don't you, Steveox? I think people like you fear media exposure because it shows what those you support- not to mention folks like you- are really all about.

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No The Media let the troops down because of Liberal Reporting. See if Bush would had put the rules back as they were back in WWII the Media would be following goverments strict orders not to cover the war. Just like FDR did. Back in those days in WWII American media didnt have the freedom to cover the war.Back in those days when a commanding officer tells the reporter to leave he better leave or he will go to jail and they know it too.We have gave too much freedom to the media.Its now time to add some laws.If i was the President id say,,From Now on the CO commanding officers have all the power just like the LAPD has too much power.If the CO Commanding officer tells the cameraman to shut off the camera he better do it. Or the Commanding Officer takes that camera away from him and Shoot it up. And If he orders you to leave the area and you go somwhere else to report he can arrest you and youll go to iraqi Jail with the rest of Al Queda guys.These are strict rules i approve for the media to follow.
Huh?
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Re: "We let the soldiers down"

It's every dumb idealist who voted for George W. Bush, and carries a Republican't Party card that let our troops down.
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Re: "We let the soldiers down"

Even Hitler and Stallin wouldnt allow their people to hear whats going on in the war.I bet even the Russian people wasnt aware the cuban missle crises was going on nor they were told about the berlin wall.
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Even Hitler and Stallin wouldnt allow their people to hear whats going on in the war.I bet even the Russian people wasnt aware the cuban missle crises was going on nor they were told about the berlin wall.
That would be because the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were highly authoritarian regimes. Using your argument, since Hitler exterminated people he didn't like, we should let Bush do it, too.
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Even Hitler and Stallin wouldnt allow their people to hear whats going on in the war.I bet even the Russian people wasnt aware the cuban missle crises was going on nor they were told about the berlin wall.
"Even Hitler and Stallin"?

Are we meant to emulate their example?

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Even Hitler and Stallin wouldnt allow their people to hear whats going on in the war.I bet even the Russian people wasnt aware the cuban missle crises was going on nor they were told about the berlin wall.
Maybe that's because Hitler and Stalin knew they had things to hide, Steveox.
Ever thought of that?

And if you think I'd just stand by and let folks like you do to America what Hitler did to Germany and Stalin to Russia I can guarantee you that I'd be keeping folks like you "in my sights", Steveox. I believe that would put me in the honorable camp of the "Resistance" fighters, while folks like you would just be remembered as dead psychopathic fascist thugs.

Do hope you get the picture.

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Come to think of it, if Bush knew what was good for him, he would start censoring the media left and right (or perhaps anything except for the extreme right). What is Hitler's approval rating right now? Perhaps Hitler's corpse is more popular than Bush. I wouldn't find it surprising.
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Re: "We let the soldiers down"

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No The Media let the troops down because of Liberal Reporting. See if Bush would had put the rules back as they were back in WWII the Media would be following goverments strict orders not to cover the war. Just like FDR did. Back in those days in WWII American media didnt have the freedom to cover the war.Back in those days when a commanding officer tells the reporter to leave he better leave or he will go to jail and they know it too.We have gave too much freedom to the media.Its now time to add some laws.If i was the President id say,,From Now on the CO commanding officers have all the power just like the LAPD has too much power.If the CO Commanding officer tells the cameraman to shut off the camera he better do it. Or the Commanding Officer takes that camera away from him and Shoot it up. And If he orders you to leave the area and you go somwhere else to report he can arrest you and youll go to iraqi Jail with the rest of Al Queda guys.These are strict rules i approve for the media to follow.
So your way of solving the whole problem is to stop free reporting on the part of the media? And if the media don't listen, send them to Iraqi jails?

No offense, but this has to be the one of the battiest things I've heard in a very long time.
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Even Hitler and Stallin wouldnt allow their people to hear whats going on in the war.
And who could argue with visionaries like them?
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Well the Media never call it like it is..The American Media is like Baseball Umpires favoring the Yankees.
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Well the Media never call it like it is..The American Media is like Baseball Umpires favoring the Yankees.
It's not the mainstream media steveox, they have competitors to think about.
It's idiots like you who read crap and play Chinese whispers with it.
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Scandal!!! What is this with the media? It’s a hundred freaking years old, 28 acres big and has 5,500 rooms and under the authority of congress not the Bush administration. Sheesh.
The media should do there homework: Walter Reed Army Medical Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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