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Old 03-06-2007
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Re: Worthless Bill Mahre wishing Cheneys death!!!

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and this is why no real americans take liberal Democrats seriously when they say they can protect the country from islamic radicals.
So "real Americans" don't take "liberal Democrats" seriously because I, a libertarian, said I dislike Cheney? Do explain how you connected those dots.
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As long as the general public know the left feels this way they will continue to elect whoever the republican nominee is.

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Do explain also who the "general public," "real Americans" and I'm assuming "unreal Americans" are.
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Re: Bill Maher wishing Cheney's death!!!

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Isn't that interesting. Could it be brown skin connected?
I don't think it is ethnically motivated, it is legally motivated. This site can't be sued by hosting death threats against any foreign leader, so it is only a rule that American leaders cannot be threatened. If anything it just exposes an ethical flaw of the site. They should be genuine and ban all threats against all people.

But hey, thats just my opinion.

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Re: Worthless Bill Mahre wishing Cheneys death!!!

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Then you're naive and stupid and need to go back to school.
And no argument from the other side. Just ad hominem.
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Re: Bill Maher wishing Cheney's death!!!

It's a true shame that you Libs still have NO CLUE as to who the enemies of the U.S. are. I guess it's good for you that you weren't around in the Civil War days, eh?
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It's a true shame that you Libs still have NO CLUE as to who the enemies of the U.S. are. I guess it's good for you that you weren't around in the Civil War days, eh?
And who is the enemy of the United States? I know that Bush's actions have caused the loss of more lives and money than bin Laden could have ever dreamed of, not to mention the loss of freedoms/rights that bin Laden or Hussein could never have accomplished. So who is the enemy of the United States if not the person who has done the most harm to it?
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Re: Bill Maher wishing Cheney's death!!!

I've seen the show. This thread and this right wing campaign about Maher wishing Cheney's death is utter bullshit.
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Gee, Jack, don't you have anything useful to say? How about actually backing up your wild claims every once in a while?
It was said, in fact it was in 3 to 4 letter words so even you could understand it, although the Red Rubber Ball bouncing across the words optoion was available too!

I guess the Adm. here love this no good son of a bitch and chose not to print my Post! I am used to being censored and regulated here as I understand Liberals are pussies who can't handle the TRUTH!!! Help ya Nancy??
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Re: Bill Maher wishing Cheney's death!!!

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I don't think it is ethnically motivated, it is legally motivated. This site can't be sued by hosting death threats against any foreign leader, so it is only a rule that American leaders cannot be threatened. If anything it just exposes an ethical flaw of the site. They should be genuine and ban all threats against all people.

But hey, thats just my opinion.

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Well said and I fully agree with you. It's not fair that people get to talk about death of elected officials elsewhere, but not those in the US. I too think that threats against all elected officials should be banned, and not just those in the US.
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Re: Bill Maher wishing Cheney's death!!!

If it isn't a threat to do so or a solicitation for another to it is supposedly protect by the first amendment. Of course the present administration doesn't like the Constitution very much.
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If it isn't a threat to do so or a solicitation for another to it is supposedly protect by the first amendment.
Agree, and what I'm saying is that this should be applied fairly to all elected officials in all countries, not just in the US.
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Agree, and what I'm saying is that this should be applied fairly to all elected officials in all countries, not just in the US.
The point is it is unlawful to make such comments about US officials in the US, where this board is located.

Marc doesn't have the time to talk to the Secret Service about that sort of post.

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The point is it is unlawful to make such comments about US officials in the US, where this board is located.
Please show me some proof that it is illegal. I was under the impression there was full freedom of speech in the US, but I'll retract my point here if you can prove me wrong.

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Marc doesn't have the time to talk to the Secret Service about that sort of post.

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Agreed, but that doesn't negate the point I made either.
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Re: Bill Maher wishing Cheney's death!!!

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THREATS AGAINST PRESIDENT - 18 USC 871, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to willfully make a true threat to injure or kill the President of the United States.

A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:

First: That the person uttered words alleged to be the threat against the President;

Second: That the person understood and meant the words he used as a true threat; and

Third: That the person uttered the words knowingly and willfully.

A "threat" is a statement expressing an intention to kill or injure the President; and a "true threat" means a serious threat as distinguished from words used as mere political argument, idle or careless talk, or something said in a joking manner.

The essence of the offense is the knowing and willful making of a true threat. So, if it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the person knowingly made a true threat against the President, willfully intending that it be understood by others as a serious threat, then the offense is complete; it is not necessary to prove that the person actually intended to carry out the threat.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/t028.htm
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First of all, this does not apply to all elected officials, simply the President. Not applicable in Cheney's case.

Second, let's work with YOUR source here ...

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A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:

First: That the person uttered words alleged to be the threat against the President;

Second: That the person understood and meant the words he used as a true threat; and

Third: That the person uttered the words knowingly and willfully.

A "threat" is a statement expressing an intention to kill or injure the President; and a "true threat" means a serious threat as distinguished from words used as mere political argument, idle or careless talk, or something said in a joking manner.
As you can see from the highlighted/bolded portions, a POSTER can only be proven guilty provided those conditions are met.

Third and last, I fail to see why someone who did not say it in the first place (Marc, in your case) should be guilty of this. At least, your law doesn't show that to be true. Sure, Marc owns the site but opinions expressed are not all his ...
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Re: Worthless Bill Mahre wishing Cheneys death!!!

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And no argument from the other side. Just ad hominem.
No, ad hominem, just truth.

For you to put Cheney in the same category as Osama bin Laden not only shows a complete lack of intellect, but also a complete lack of maturity.

Grow up.
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