Real american liberals understand that islamic radicals are not as dangerous as our own government. Islamic radicals can only spew random attacks, they can't change our government and take away our freedoms the way conservatives do.


Exactly, Cheney and Bush would both have to die. Then Nancy Pelosi becomes President of the United States. War ends....


Who are you gonna blame? The black people? rofl


It is illegal to make direct threats. Please show me any on this board, or in the maher show. Discussion of officials dying is another matter entirely.

Anyone who wants our destruction (i.e. North Korea, Iran, ect.)

Wrong again, genius, Bush hasn't caused any death, why does it infuriate people like you to see the US stand up for itself? By the loss of freedoms/rights, does that mean to have free elections and not be led by a tyrannical dictator not freedom?

You could say that, because Bush hasn't done any harm to us. It's truly amazing how clueless you people are as to who our enemies are.

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Why don't you just go ahead and threaten Mr Cheney or even the scumbag Pelosi, and see where You end up Sunshine!!! Is stupidity the norm in Your World?

Why should Marc have to take his time to talk to the Secret Service about an unlawful threat made by a member? I never claimed Marc would be held responsible, but the fact is that people making death threats against the President and / or Vice Peesident have occasioned visits and calls to forum owners from the Secret Service.

The rule is simple - no threats against the President.

Also, the law explicitly covers not only the President but those officials in the line of succession.

Please understand that this particular forum rule is not up for debate. This is how it is.

Matt

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I don't threaten anyone.

Your name calling is uncalled for and is rude and disruptive.

Do you have anything to offer to the topic at all other than insults and barbs?

Over 3000 servicemen, tens(hundreds) of thousands of iraqis, lots of 'suspected' terrorists in custody, etc.


By that, do you mean after an attack by a foreign nation? Hasn't happended since the 1940s. Everything since was started by us.

Do you mean terrorist attack? If so, Iraq did not do 9/11.


We are talking about the homeland USA...somethign that no dictator has influence over.

I wonder how it is that every time a member points out something that he/she feels is unfair, you simply try and close the debate by saying "thats how it is"? Is this your version of how democracy works?

Actually, I'm not so interested in debating the forum rule, I'd rather debate the logic behind it. I am not interested in posting threats to any elected officials, so the rule in itself doesn't matter to me. Neither does it particularly bother me that "thats how it is".

Legally, how could they hold him responsible?

It isn't as simple as you make it out to be - the actual law, that is.
I see you ignored where I posted a bunch of things that have to be proven.

And what freedoms have you sacrificed? Or is everything you say mere rhetoric, much as I suspect.

Except for the occasional islamic attack; except next time it happens on US soil and it's nuclear or biological.

I can't help you with your racism.

These comments are indicative of the type of people decent citizens try to avoid. What kind of person wants to be associated with the those who think of life in those terms?

Varus

Sorry, but this isn't up for debate or discussion. This particular rule is set in stone, and nothing approaching the line will be left up. It would be that way regardless of who is in the office.

The logic behind it is simple - it is unlawful to make threats against the president or any official in the line of succession.

The post that was removed contained a specific statement that the poster would use a firearm on the VP.

Maybe you should read the rest of the paragraph.

Yes, for our purposes, it is very simple - no threats against the President or any official in the line of succession. Period.

Very simple, very clear.

I am not interested in whether or not the posting in question would have been sufficient for a criminal conviction. The posting in question was in clear violation of the rules of the forum.

I don't enforce the law, Pi Jiu. I simply enforce the rules of the forum.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

Matt

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Explaining the law to you does not indicate one is the type of person people would wish to avoid. You have it completely backwards.

maybe the democrats will actually DEFEND the HOMELAND instead of starting proxy wars elsewhere.


Seriously, im curious who was to blame then?


How do you think the line of succession was formed? It was formed by people *gasp* talking about officials dying. :P

Ok Matt. You get to do it YOUR way.

Your forum rules are clear enough, sure ... And I agree that this particular FORUM rule is not up for debate, since that is a rule.

Just to clarify though, is there any forum rule against me saying a forum rule is unfair?

Nope, you can say that as much as you like. You can even start a new thread in the suggestions area about the rule.

The only moderation related thing that is off limits is discussing a specific moderation action - i.e. if poster x gets a warning about a thread, poster x is not permitted to discuss it in the open forums.

Matt

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OK - thanks for your suggestion. I think I shall now implement it.

Such an angry little man.

What's an "optoion?"

Oh, and if you're feeling "censored," you should take it up with the staff here. Several of them are on the rightward side of the political spectrum, so accusing them of bias would only serve to make you look just a little bit more ridiculous.

Oh, and I'm not sure why you want to call me "Nancy." Is this supposed to make me feel bad or something?

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