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Old 03-11-2007
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Re: Chavez uses racist epithet referring to Bush

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Slon, whether you choose to admit it or not, the general public does see the word "nigger" as a racist slur ...
Then the general public is stupid and influences by race-card-playing politicians.
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yes, perhaps it should not be, and perhaps the "real" meaning is what you say it is, however, I'd rather go along with the flow on this one and not use the word.
Nobody is saying you have to use the word. I live in a world of knee-jerk idiots and it would be social suicide for me to use the word in public. So you have a point. But here, we have anonymity, so there is no need to be like the general public (AKA completely fucking retarded).
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Maybe that classifies me as a retard in your opinion. If so, so be it.

As for "against", I said that since I don't see the word the same way as you do.
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Re: Chavez uses racist epithet referring to Bush

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No it means Irish and its refering to nationality not race. Its funny for me. Its because Patrick or Paddy is a common/typical Irish name like Hank in US or Pierre from France or Ivor from Russia. But its not at all racist IMO.
The difference with Paki is that they have such different ethnic origins than say Irish immigrants.
OK. Yes, then it's not racist. Sort of like calling motel owners in the US Patel?

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Then the general public is stupid and influences by race-card-playing politicians.Nobody is saying you have to use the word. I live in a world of knee-jerk idiots and it would be social suicide for me to use the word in public. So you have a point. But here, we have anonymity, so there is no need to be like the general public (AKA completely fucking retarded).
Agree so far, though not sure if I'd apply that description so broadly to the general public in all cases.

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Re: Chavez uses racist epithet referring to Bush

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"Gringo" is not a racist epithet, in case that is what you are referring to.



Gringo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you think it's racist, please advise why.


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What was wrong with Chavez. The whole Latino America told Bush to go home not only Chavez. You can't blame him for this he just represents voice of his people.
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Re: Chavez uses racist epithet referring to Bush

Listening to Chavez on C-span. He just said something about "gringo oil companies."

You REALLY think he was saying "The white-guy oil companies?"
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Listening to Chavez on C-span. He just said something about "gringo oil companies."

You REALLY think he was saying "The white-guy oil companies?"
Probably something to the effect of "rich foreigner" oil companies or some nonsense like that (let's face it, Chavez doesn't exactly have all his marbles intact either )
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Probably something to the effect of "rich foreigner" oil companies or some nonsense like that (let's face it, Chavez doesn't exactly have all his marbles intact either )
I disagree. I think Chavez has full use of all his marbles... But yeah, I would say "Goddamn American Imperialistic oil companies" is what he meant by Gringo in this instance.
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I disagree. I think Chavez has full use of all his marbles... But yeah, I would say "Goddamn American Imperialistic oil companies" is what he meant by Gringo in this instance.
Well, that might have been a wrong way to put it. I just have this tendency to assume most totalitarian (ok, Chavez's not that bad as yet) socialist dictators are a bit batty.

Call me a nut, but I much prefer the US concepts of indivualism rather than socialism ...
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