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Speaking of the tip of an iceberg, let's not forget Gonzales was and is basically Bush's personal lawyer and as former White House council responsible for the conversion of existing emergency war plans into the nightmare we now know as the Patriot Act. The AG slot was his reward for obedience in removing our civil rights, quite a testimony for his professional integrity.

Lets also not forget taht CLINTON FIRED 93-NINETY THREE-93 fucking members of Justice, and the Criminal tratior cocksucker made sure the TWO Attorneys closing in opn Rostentowski and BILLY and Rottemcrotch's CRIMINAL fucking Whitewater deal was also fired by this low down Liberal mother fucker called a POTUS by Liberal pussies!!!

SHORT Memories like SHORT Dicks are what Liberals are all alike! No wonder YOUR women are Feminazi dykes, they can't find any men!!



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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

Ironman, really....read the thread, find out what's going on. All Presidents replace the attorneys at the start of their terms.

You really look silly when you post these out of touch posts...

Angel of Mercy, I know, we cannot expect anything but incompetent croneys from the Bush admin. Brownie, Gonzales, et al.
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

I'm going to as you guys to rescind on Gonzales being incompetent. He is not incompetent. He is a criminal.

Gonzales is a corporate lawyer. Always has been and is to this day. Gonzales knows what he's doing and he knows what he's done. Nothing has happened by accident.He has intentionally made all these 'mistakes'. It's obvious that he is not working for the American people, but for Bush and other power elites that maintain power with continuous attempts to consolidate all power to the executive office.

To say that Gonzales is incompetent is to say he doesn't know what he's doing or what he has done. That would be false. He lied to the American people to hide his action against them.
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And Then There Were Four...

Yesterday, March 16, Representative Paul Gillmore (R-Oh) called for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to be replaced.

So how long can he last? According to Democratic New York senator Chuck Schumer, the White house is in the midst of "active and avid discussion" about that very subject.

I give him until the end of next week...
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

One thing is for sure, if Gonzales does resign, his successor will face a different Senate than the one that rubber stamped him. Gonzales wouldn't make it out of committee with this Senate (that's the voice of the people speaking).
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

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Lets also not forget taht CLINTON FIRED 93-NINETY THREE-93 fucking members of Justice, and the Criminal tratior cocksucker made sure the TWO Attorneys closing in opn Rostentowski and BILLY and Rottemcrotch's CRIMINAL fucking Whitewater deal was also fired by this low down Liberal mother fucker called a POTUS by Liberal pussies!!!

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It's amazing that Gonzales has lasted this long. He's just a croney, a Brownie, he isn't qualified. He approved of warrantless wiretapping, torture, he says the constitution does not guarantee habeas corpus, the Supreme Court ruled against his denial of Geneva Convention law to detainees. And now this. What more does he have to do until he is impeached?
Now I'm no fan of Gonzales, but....

You claim that he approved torture.

I think you are full of shit. Can you quote him saying he approves torture?

Or are you just spewing typical kommie kow krap?
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

Try here - Gonzales Helped Set the Course for Detainees (washingtonpost.com)

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Justice Nominee's Hearings Likely to Focus on Interrogation Policies

By R. Jeffrey Smith and Dan Eggen
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Wednesday, January 5, 2005; Page A01

In March 2002, U.S. elation at the capture of al Qaeda operations chief Abu Zubaida was turning to frustration as he refused to bend to CIA interrogation. But the agency's officers, determined to wring more from Abu Zubaida through threatening interrogations, worried about being charged with violating domestic and international proscriptions on torture.

They asked for a legal review -- the first ever by the government -- of how much pain and suffering a U.S. intelligence officer could inflict on a prisoner without violating a 1994 law that imposes severe penalties, including life imprisonment and execution, on convicted torturers. The Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel took up the task, and at least twice during the drafting, top administration officials were briefed on the results.
More at the link.
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

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So do you believe that simply because "Jeff" and "Dan" told you so? Dude, they didn't even claim to be a witness to the alleged torture in the article. Nor did they quote anyone as saying they had been tortured.

WTF? Do you have a better reason for believing that?

Or perhaps you just had a bit too much Grape Kool-aid?
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

Ironman Jack: You're so deranged by your Clinton hatred you just can't talk sense can you? Pay attention:
  • These US attorneys were fired under a provision of the Patriot Act which didn't exist during the 90's. Did. Not. Exist.
  • Both Ronald Ray-Gun and Daddybush, the CIA drug dealer, fired ALL US attorneys.
  • "Current situation is Distinct from Clinton firings of US Attorneys."
  • Do you REALLY think that the Republican Congress led by Noot the Snoot would have let him get away with this if they thought they could nail him?

You need to calm down. Relax. Watch some more television. Take your medication...
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

Samantha: I've got a feeling that this one is going to bust wide open later in the week. The reasons for firing the attorneys have changed--what?--four times? Five already? The Crime Syndicate can't get its story straight. These guys can't do ANYTHING right.

I just want a ringside seat when Patrick Leahy puts Turdblossom Rove under oath! We'll learn things the like of which haven't EVER been heard before!
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

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So do you believe that simply because "Jeff" and "Dan" told you so? Dude, they didn't even claim to be a witness to the alleged torture in the article. Nor did they quote anyone as saying they had been tortured.

WTF? Do you have a better reason for believing that?

Or perhaps you just had a bit too much Grape Kool-aid?
There's more elsewhere but I'm guessing you can use a search engine to find it if you wish - or not - your choice. Meanwhile in the real world it just keeps on unravelling.
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Re: Republicans Call For Gonzales' Resignation

Alberto Gonzales and Turdblossom Rove are two long-time comrades of a certain incompetent president. The strategy to elevate Gonzales to the Supreme Court with a brief stop at the Attorney General spot was "in large part the work of Karl Rove," according to a Novmber 12, 2004 article in the New York Times. ("Choice of Gonzales May Blaze a trail for the High Court" by Elisabeth Bumiller and Neil A. Lewis) So what we have here is the administration's innermost circle involved in the unprecedanted firing of eight US attorneys for nebulous, unstated reasons.

Oh, wait! I seem to recall that Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty first lied by claiming their sacking was the result of "performance-related issues." Well...not quite. As a matter of fact, six of them received recent positive job evaluations from the Justice Department. Ooops! Then our Liar-In-Chief tried to use his standard "Goofball Defense" and asserted it was "some mismanagement." (Move along...nothing to see here...these aren't the droids you're looking for.)

Well...not quite.

The reasons are now claimed--at THIS late date!--to be that certain of the federal prosecutors were lax in pursuing voter fraud allegations. Well...not quite. The fact of the matter is that we've not seen any significant, documented voter fraud in this country in the last, oh, 35 years or so. As the New York Times notes, ("Phony Fraud Charges" oped, 3/16/07) "the pursuit of voter fraud is [Republican] code for suppressing the votes" of those inconvenient poor people, those legions of unwashed minorities...you know, Americans who know better than to vote for corporate loyalists in the first place. (It is also true that Diebold is NEVER mentioned; of course, they're huge rightwing contributors...) And, oddly enough, the accusations almost always emerge from GOP candidates who lose close elections in swing states. Funny how that works out.

Former US attorney John McKay has said that the loss of the governor's seat in a nail-biter of an election showed "NO evidence" of voter fraud and he wasn't about to "drag innocent people in front of a grand jury." (McKay timeline HERE. Former US attorney "Bud" Cummins III believes his firing was the result of a probe he launched into the corruption of Republican officials in Missouri.

Okay!! THIS smells familiar! Old Republican Motto: Why should we do the Right Thing when we can cover up the corruption later? And--who'da thunk it?--Ol' Turdblossom himself is at ground zero of THIS ONE, TOO! Well, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairmen Patrick Leahy got his dander up over THAT and is deadly serious about slapping Rove with a steaming brown subpeona if need be. (I don't care HOW it comes out now! I just want to see fat Karl compelled to tell the truth under pain of perjury. I have NO doubt that the memory of his neocon buddy, Irving the Scooter, and his little brush with perjury is still fresh in his twisted mind.) Gonzales himself stepped up to the plate and tried to put the fire out without ever ovce admitting that he, himself, had made a mistake.

And in the meantime, the buck is being furiously passed. ("White House Now Unsure if Firings were Miers' Idea" NY Times, 3/16/07) Be sure to stay tuned; this can ONLY get better...
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

The last two Attorney Generals, Janetn Reno and John Ashcroft both fired ALL the federal prosecutors when they took the AG position IIRC.

I don't see why Gonzelas firing a mere fraction of them is a big deal. It is his perogative to bring in his own people.

And as far as the voter fraud issue, well I think that is a serious offense that demands a thorough investigation. I know for a fact that in Ohio there was drug dealers giving away crack in exchange for completed voter registration forms. You could see junkies going to the crackhouses here in my neighborhood in Toledo, Ohio carrying handfulls of them all the time during the run-up to the 2004 elections. It was common knowledge that you could get a free ten dollar rock of crack for 10 completed Ohio Voter Registration Forms.

Even though it was obviously a widespread practice in the area, only one dude got busted for it as far as I know.

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Mary Poppins. Jeffrey Dahmer. Janet Jackson. Chad Staton.

Defiance County elections officials were confident the first three hadn't moved to their small community. But the fourth one lived there, and - in exchange for crack cocaine - tried to falsely submit the first three names and more than 100 others onto the county's voter registration rolls, police said.

Now Mr. Staton, 22, of Defiance, faces a felony charge of false registration in a case that has quickly gained national attention as part of a hotly contested presidential battle that's attracted a flurry of new voter registrations across the country - and a flurry of complaints of voter registration fraud.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...WS09/410190343

Now I don't know if it was an identity theft scam or maybe something more sinister like mass voter fraud in this "hotly contested" State, but it seems kinda funny that only one dude ever got busted. Any prosecutor that drops the ball on something like that is either stupid, corrupt, or just don't give a fuck.
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Re: Republicans Call Fro Gonzales' Resignation

I think it's not so much the fact of the sackings as much as the reasons. And of course there's the associated alleged cover-up and the possibility that lies were told under oath. All in all a bit of a mess I'd say.
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