What I find wrong with it is the word "FUN"

You could have talked all day without saying that-- It may be your opinion but you are definitely in the minority.

I fully agree with the emboldened part above, But I think the attitude actually expressed in the initial statement was a bit too extreme.

How is the New Deal criminal (according to actual laws, that is)?

Same with LBJ's "Great Society."

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Thomas Jefferson

I believe it's unfortunate that you have chosen to find my particular brand of patriotism too extreme. I LOVE this country. It has its faults...but I LOVE it. And it is my contention that the administration now in power has done everything they could possibly do to diminish us in the eyes of the world, to wound us physically, financially and morally. They are craven cowardly bullies who have violated the Constitution, International Law and treaties we have signed: The men whom the unclean Republicans have put in charge of our country are criminals.

The scope and scale at which they steal and kill is so vast as to be dizzying, but at the end of the day these are nothing but gangsters, pure and simple. (Furthermore, the simpletons and brownshirts who continue to stand with them are nothing more that their wheel-men, bagmen and enablers; they must be called out as such at every opportunity...but that's another rant for another time.)

If my zeal at their comeuppence is, to you, excessive, you might remember that once upon a time we had habeas corpus in this country...along with privacy, safety in our persons and possessions and REAL security. They have trampled upon everything--EVERYTHING--that made this country great. In my eyes it is a great joy to see them experience a tiny fraction of what they have been dealing out so flagrantly and so copiously. And so arrogantly.

I am DELIGHTED at their fall from grace; my sole regret being that they haven't fallen nearly far enough. Or fast enough.

If that offends your delicate sensibilities, then it is your problem...

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Addendum: Let's take this from the general to the specific, doniston. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is the man who has legitimized torture and enabled its becoming government policy in my name. And yours.

Do you approve of that? Or do you think, like most civilized human beings, that torture has NO PLACE among the standard operating procedures of a nation that claims the mantle of superpower?

This is the man who has sullied our name and our reputation almost beyond recognition. I don't happen to believe that there is ANYTHING sufficiently degrading that can happen to him for having done that. Resignation? IMPEACHMENT?!? This puddle of diarrhea deserves to be incarcerated for the rest of his natural life.

And maybe, perhaps, waterboarded just a little...

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"Tomorrow, you're all going to wake up in a Brave New World, a world where the Constitution gets trampled by an army of terrorist clones created in a stem cell research laboratory, run by homosexual doctors who sterilize their instruments over burning American flags."

Yes, I read your post and I am referencing the politicians you cited by name.

What charge would Clinton be in jail for Travelgate? Whitewater? Sorry, no crime there.

What criminal charges are you laying against FDR and LBJ? Contrary to your beliefs being a liberal is not a crime. Saving the U.S. economy and pulling us out of the depression is not a crime. Beating the Nazis was not a crime. Saving the elderly from abject poverty with Social Security was not a crime.

LBJ - the war on poverty and strengthening civil rights laws was not a crime.

These are two of the few presidents that never belonged in jail. Unlike the two Bush's, Reagan and Nixon.

Like I said before: Quit blaming Clinton for everything that ever happened.

The current Bush presidency is the most corrupt Administration in history, joining the other Republican ethicly challenged administrations of Bush/Reagan (Iran/Contra), Nixon (Watergate), Harding (Teapot Dome) and the very corrupt Grant Administration.

So, you are incapable of extrapolating my comment beyond the few concrete examples that I gave.
How about campaign fraud? Selling missile technology to the Chicoms? Failing to uphold the Constitution? Obstruction of Justice? Stealing FBI files? Selling pardons?
Lying to the American public in order to get us into WWII? Unlike Bush's alleged transgression, there's proof that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor in advance.
Same story in Vietnam as well as his featherbedding his wealth using his presidential power. Conflict of interest?
The Bush's were never so much as charged with any crimes, Reagan was exhonorated of any wrongdoing and Nixon, at least had the dignity to resign rather than disgrace the office further...unlike Clinton.
I blame liberalism for the sad state that we're in. Clinton,in that regard, was less of an issue than FDR or LBJ.
Not a big US history fan, I see.

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First jpsartre12 says this...

and then he says this...

In regards to the first statement quoted are you now saying that what the anti- war liberals and hippies of the 60's were saying about the profit motives of the military/industrial complex in their desire to continue the war was in fact correct?

And if those liberals of the 60's were indeed correct then how can it be that the liberals and liberalism are now to be held responsible for the sad state our nation is in these days?

That's quite a contradiction you got going there, jpsartre12.

Gem

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I agree with your sentiments, but not the description as it being FUN" Saddam was hanged, and he likely had it coming, but was that also"FUN"???

Would you try to understand,? I am on your side, and I agree with the feeling of wanting them punished, I simply object to the process being described asFUN.

There are those that HATE the idea of checks and balances, Joao... they prefer the rubber stamping the congress has been guilty of for the last 6 years...

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what are you basing this on? your wishful thinking that this will just go away?

but just in case there is anything to it, which I doubt... got a link?

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I, for one, prefer to see the courts try criminals, so they get punished.

There was never an intent for the congress to be able to set felons free as a check or balance.

Matt

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His incompetence is a good enough reason to me for his resignation. Do you think that incompetence makes for a good top cop?

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