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Old 03-18-2007
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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weaponisation of the chemicals? I think I understand your meaning, no doubt. But these were not the WMD's that Iraq was supposedly invaded for despite the hysterical claims of some neo cons.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

Hussein apologists are like Nazi's, they denigrate jews and fuck themselves.

Start of "screwy reasons" list...
  • Suggest that innocent benevolent truckers hauling swimming pools just keep mysteriously exploding
  • It's not a chemical weapon because it can be made with "household" chemicals
  • Canada has swimming pools too..why don't we invade them?
  • We went there to go find chlorine, not WMD
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

Still nobody ever presented a link between Saddam and the chlorine gas. Iwonder what the point of this thread is. That terrorists are evil and want to kill as much as possible? I'm stunned, I always thought they would live in a gingerbreadhouse in the jelly-baby lane.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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The three different kinds of weapons universally acknowledged to be Weapons of Mass Destruction are Biological weapons (germs, viruses etc.), chemical weapons (poison gas deliberately released in the atmosphere, liquids put in food or water supplies, etc.), and nuclear weapons.

One of them has now been used deliberately as an offensive weapon In Iraq, in three different locations today. Chlorine gas, which was specifically outlawed after its use in World War I, has now seen a rebirth. It has also been used several other times by terrorists in Iraq in the last month or two.

The mainstream media, which was strident in its denunciations of the Bush administration for their insistence that Iraqi WMDs could fall into the hands of terrorists and be used against our toops and allies, have suddenly become extremely quiet, not mentioning the term "weapon of mass destruction" in any of their stories that I have seen about these attacks.

One wonders what excuse they will use now.

1.) "These gas attacks don't count as WMDs because the tanks they were in weren't specifically designed to be weapons."

2.) "They don't count because there's no proof Saddam had these particular tanks of chlorine before the invasion."

3.) "They don't count because there's no proof Saddam had these particular tanks of chlorine after the invasion."

4.) "Gee, I guess we were wrong about the danger of WMDs in Iraq. We take back all the things we said about Bush, and acknowledge he was right after all."

5.) "Chlorine has peaceful uses as well as wartime uses, so these don't count as WMDs."

...plus a host of even screwier ones. Which of the above excuses would you guess WON'T be used by the MSM and other leftists?

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Insurgent Chlorine Attacks Injure 350 Iraqi Sunnis

Saturday, March 17, 2007

BAGHDAD — Three suicide bombers driving trucks rigged with tanks of toxic chlorine gas struck targets in heavily Sunni Anbar province Friday, including the office of a Sunni tribal leader opposed to Al Qaeda.

The attacks killed at least two people and sickened 350 Iraqi civilians and six U.S. troops, the U.S. military said Saturday.

There is a mounting power struggle between insurgents and the growing number of Sunnis who oppose them in Anbar, the center of the Sunni insurgency, which stretches from Baghdad to the borders with Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

The Anbar assaults came three days after Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite, traveled there to reach out to Sunni clan chiefs in a bid to undermine tribal support for the insurgency.

The violence started about 4:11 p.m. Friday when a driver detonated explosives in a pickup truck carrying chlorine at a checkpoint northeast of the provincial capital of Ramadi, wounding one U.S. service member and one Iraqi civilian, the military said in a statement.

Two hours later a dump truck exploded in Amiriyah, south of Fallujah, killing two policemen and leaving as many as 100 residents with symptoms of chlorine exposure, ranging from minor skin and lung irritations to vomiting, the military said.

Iraqi authorities said at least six people were killed and dozens wounded when the truck blew up in a line of cars waiting at a checkpoint. The U.S. did not confirm the Iraqi report.

Ahmed Kuhdier, a 32-year-old taxi driver, said the blast sent up a plume of white smoke that turned black and blue.

"Minutes later, we started to smell nasty smells. I saw people coming form the explosion site and they were coughing and having trouble breathing," he said.

Another suicide bomber detonated a dump truck containing a 200-gallon chlorine tank rigged with explosives at 7:13 p.m. three miles south of Fallujah in the Albu Issa tribal region, the military said.

U.S. forces found about 250 local civilians, including seven children, suffering from symptoms related to chlorine exposure, according to the statement. Police said the bomb was targeting the reception center of a tribal sheik who has denounced Al Qaeda.

Four other bombings have released chlorine gas since Jan. 28, when a homicide bomber driving a dump truck filled with explosives and a chlorine tank struck a quick-reaction force and Iraqi police in Ramadi, killing 16 people.
This post is the very definition of the phrase, "Unclear on the concept".

Are you seriously saying that homemade weapons, four years after the fact, justify an invasion that was based on lies?
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Old 03-18-2007
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

You people just can't let go, can you? Post your crackpot WMD/Saddam theories on your own crackpot web sites. Give it up already. Nobody's listening anymore and, more importantly, it's starting to annoy me.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

This is ridiculous--yes, blowing up chemical tankers is a BAD thing, a very BAD thing--but to equate improvised weapons to WMD weapons programs is.

You are making a hollow, apples to oranges, argument; a real stretch, common place for you and you fellow tin-hat wearers these days.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

The people who want these chlorine gas attacks as justification for the war ultimatively fail to link the both of them. Yet another pathetic attempt of the Bush apologists to prove something else but that they too feel there was no real reason to start this war.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

Why can't Republicans just join and support America? What's with the blind allegiance to the Republican party? They're criminals. Get it through your heads, quit defending a-holes. Support America and send these crooks out on the streets instead of defending them.

America first! Screw that hijacked Republican party. Don't wave the red, white, and blue if you can't part with the criminals in the Republican party.

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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

What a sentimental, bullshit argument. You neo-cons make me laugh. Is that what the Bush team meant? We'd start the fifth year of this scandalous war so that we could find CHLORINE GAS! Fucking hilarious.

If you support the war, you support the stupid side that makes the same mistakes over and over. It's embarassing. I want America to win, honestly I do, but they have a strategy that beats our strategy. They can melt back into their population, study our moves, even join one of the government militias, while moonlighting the rest of the time at picking off our troops. The only bullshit strategy we have is "faith" and "just believe" and "if we leave now they'll follow us home" and kicking in their doors.

When did America become the stupid ones?
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

Chlorine is not a WMD. WMD stands for Weapons of Mass Destruction. Mass means many, as in hundreds and thousands. A truck of chlorine exploding kills a few, and sickens a crowd. It's not a WMD.

If that's the excuse you neocons are using to explain why we invaded, then we better fucking invade the whole world. Everyone has chlorine.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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The fact that the insurgents are making and using these terrible weapons is sickening. But linking this behaviour to the missing/non-existent/degraded/destroyed/mislaid/"I forgot where I put them"/"oh we know they're buried in Syria" WMD allegedly possessed by the Saddam regime is, well, just a little bit silly.
I would have to agree. Seems like quite a stretch.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

Thanks, Li'l Nutty, for another textbook example of faulty reasoning.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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Hussein apologists are like Nazi's, they denigrate jews and fuck themselves.

Start of "screwy reasons" list...
  • Suggest that innocent benevolent truckers hauling swimming pools just keep mysteriously exploding
  • It's not a chemical weapon because it can be made with "household" chemicals
  • Canada has swimming pools too..why don't we invade them?
  • We went there to go find chlorine, not WMD
So hairball, do you actually have a reply to my argument, or are you going to continue parroting this over and over? Did you happen to read the IWR? If the presence of chlorine gas is enough to invade, then practically every nation should be invaded because almost anyone has the capability to make chlorine gas, not to mention that it is accidentally made sometimes when mixing pool chemicals.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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So hairball, do you actually have a reply to my argument, or are you going to continue parroting this over and over? Did you happen to read the IWR?
I can quote it in it's entirety verbatim. Remember, I'm the one who introduced you to the document.

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If the presence of chlorine gas is enough to invade, then practically every nation should be invaded because almost anyone has the capability to make chlorine gas, not to mention that it is accidentally made sometimes when mixing pool chemicals.
There is nothing in the Iraq War Resolution that says chlorine gas must be present to invade.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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The mainstream media, which was strident in its denunciations of the Bush administration for their insistence that Iraqi WMDs could fall into the hands of terrorists and be used against our toops and allies, have suddenly become extremely quiet, not mentioning the term "weapon of mass destruction" in any of their stories that I have seen about these attacks.

One wonders what excuse they will use now.

1.) "These gas attacks don't count as WMDs because the tanks they were in weren't specifically designed to be weapons."

2.) "They don't count because there's no proof Saddam had these particular tanks of chlorine before the invasion."

3.) "They don't count because there's no proof Saddam had these particular tanks of chlorine after the invasion."

4.) "Gee, I guess we were wrong about the danger of WMDs in Iraq. We take back all the things we said about Bush, and acknowledge he was right after all."

5.) "Chlorine has peaceful uses as well as wartime uses, so these don't count as WMDs."
So this thread is an "I told you so" thread or a "Bush told us so thread"?

The point of your post is to show that Bush was right for saying terrorists would acquire weapons of mass destruction if we didn't go into Iraq.

Well we did go into Iraq and terrorists acquired them anyway.

Bush is no Nostradamus here... I mean chlorine gas could be considered WMD just as much as the 747s that got flown into the WTCs. Seems as if the terrorists had already acquired WMDs before Bush even started spewing the Acronym.

I give Bush no points... and may God have mercy on his soul. (Look below for my detailed thought on this matter)
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