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Old 03-19-2007
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

Looks like the usual moonbats are doing the usual dodging and ducking, trying to avoid discussion of the fact that terrorists are now using WMDs against us and our allies in Iraq. Anybody have any reason to think that, if/when they start attacking us in the U.S., they won't use them here, too?

I'm still waiting for one of the moonies to volunteer for the job of going to the relatives of the dead and inured in these attacks, and explaining that the weapons that struck down their loved ones "don't count" somehow.

Can these people get any sicker or more detached from reality?

We voted a majority of them into both houses of Congress last November. We're starting to get the government we deserve.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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Looks like the usual moonbats are doing the usual dodging and ducking, trying to avoid discussion of the fact that terrorists are now using WMDs against us and our allies in Iraq. Anybody have any reason to think that, if/when they start attacking us in the U.S., they won't use them here, too?

I'm still waiting for one of the moonies to volunteer for the job of going to the relatives of the dead and inured in these attacks, and explaining that the weapons that struck down their loved ones "don't count" somehow.

Can these people get any sicker or more detached from reality?

We voted a majority of them into both houses of Congress last November. We're starting to get the government we deserve.
i think we have all noticed that you are suggesting the Democrats are responsible for the use of these new weapons, even tho this is just the latest one (which started prior to the Election). Your reality is slipping.
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i think we have all noticed that you are suggesting the Democrats are responsible for the use of these new weapons, even tho this is just the latest one (which started prior to the Election). Your reality is slipping.
Looks like the moonies are even trying to make up things I didn't say, claim I said them anyway, and then bash me for them. Their desperation is showing. My sympathies.

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We're starting to get the government we deserve.
Thank God. We definitely deserve better than what we've had for 6+ years with Bush.

In regard to WMD's is your point that terrorists will not hesitate to acquire and use WMD's here in America if they can?

No shit. What's stopping them from doing it now? Our presence in Iraq has nothing to do with preventing them from delivering some kind of WMD (or using WMD that's already here) to our soil and using it.

That's why the terrorists are the bad guys.... not the media... not the Moonies... not the Mexican immigrants....
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

Seriously, Acorn and Hairball, do you not know the difference between nerve and mustard agents and chlorine gas?
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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Seriously, Acorn and Hairball, do you not know the difference between nerve and mustard agents and chlorine gas?
They don't know the difference between a spy and a housewife either, you expect them to know the difference between those things?
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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Looks like the usual moonbats are doing the usual dodging and ducking, trying to avoid discussion of the fact that terrorists are now using WMDs against us and our allies in Iraq. Anybody have any reason to think that, if/when they start attacking us in the U.S., they won't use them here, too?

I'm still waiting for one of the moonies to volunteer for the job of going to the relatives of the dead and inured in these attacks, and explaining that the weapons that struck down their loved ones "don't count" somehow.

Can these people get any sicker or more detached from reality?

We voted a majority of them into both houses of Congress last November. We're starting to get the government we deserve.
I have yet to read or see any news about a WMD attack in Iraq.

A cylinder of chlorine with some dynamite attached isn't a WMD.

If there is a WMD attack, you'll notice it because the death toll will be in the thousands.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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The three different kinds of weapons universally acknowledged to be Weapons of Mass Destruction are Biological weapons (germs, viruses etc.), chemical weapons (poison gas deliberately released in the atmosphere, liquids put in food or water supplies, etc.), and nuclear weapons.

One of them has now been used deliberately as an offensive weapon In Iraq, in three different locations today. Chlorine gas, which was specifically outlawed after its use in World War I, has now seen a rebirth. It has also been used several other times by terrorists in Iraq in the last month or two.

The mainstream media, which was strident in its denunciations of the Bush administration for their insistence that Iraqi WMDs could fall into the hands of terrorists and be used against our toops and allies, have suddenly become extremely quiet, not mentioning the term "weapon of mass destruction" in any of their stories that I have seen about these attacks.
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1.) "These gas attacks don't count as WMDs because the tanks they were in weren't specifically designed to be weapons."

2.) "They don't count because there's no proof Saddam had these particular tanks of chlorine before the invasion."

3.) "They don't count because there's no proof Saddam had these particular tanks of chlorine after the invasion."

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5.) "Chlorine has peaceful uses as well as wartime uses, so these don't count as WMDs."
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What is left to write? You provided the arguments you adhere to, then destroyed them with the arguments of your opponents. This would be comical if it wasn't sad. It's just grotesque. Now please write the 3rd part of your internal debate, the one in which you try to refute the arguments of your opponen- I mean, your own arguments.
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I have yet to read or see any news about a WMD attack in Iraq.
And if you keep trying to pretend large quantities of poison gas released with malicious intent in a populated area isn't a WMD, you'll probably go on not seeing the news. We can lead a horse to water, but we can't change the fact that half of him is a horse's ass.

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A cylinder of chlorine with some dynamite attached isn't a WMD.
Yep, keep pretending just like that. You obviously know the drill. It's one that liberals can't exist without.

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I like to wash my clothes and clean my toilets with weapons of mass destruction.
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Of all the people died: how many died from our war vs. terrorists using wmd?

probably exponentially more.
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Re: Terrorists used WMDs in three separate attacks in Iraq

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I can quote it in it's entirety verbatim. Remember, I'm the one who introduced you to the document.

There is nothing in the Iraq War Resolution that says chlorine gas must be present to invade.
No, but it did say that the presence of WMDs was a reason. Would you like me to quote where the documents mentions WMDs? Now, if you consider the chlorine to be a WMD, as the title of the thread suggests, that would mean that the presence of chlorine is enough to invade.
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And if you keep trying to pretend large quantities of poison gas released with malicious intent in a populated area isn't a WMD, you'll probably go on not seeing the news. We can lead a horse to water, but we can't change the fact that half of him is a horse's ass.


Yep, keep pretending just like that. You obviously know the drill. It's one that liberals can't exist without.

Come on, and stop dodging the question. Chlorine was used as a chemical weapon in WW I and WWII, yes:

USNews.com: Health: Choking Agents

Of the 70,000+ US soldiers exposed to gas in WWI, less than 2000 were exposed to chlorine:

eMedicine - Toxicity, Chlorine Gas : Article by Eli Segal, MD

It is an extraordinarily difficult thing to use as an effective weapon:

CNN.com - Transcripts


Now, are you really trying to compare NERVE GAS to chlorine?
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Now, if you consider the chlorine to be a WMD, as the title of the thread suggests, that would mean that the presence of chlorine is enough to invade.
How did you come to that absurd conclusion?
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The mainstream media, which was strident in its denunciations of the Bush administration for their insistence that Iraqi WMDs could fall into the hands of terrorists and be used against our toops and allies, have suddenly become extremely quiet, not mentioning the term "weapon of mass destruction" in any of their stories that I have seen about these attacks.

One wonders what excuse they will use now.

1.) "These gas attacks don't count as WMDs because the tanks they were in weren't specifically designed to be weapons."

2.) "They don't count because there's no proof Saddam had these particular tanks of chlorine before the invasion."

3.) "They don't count because there's no proof Saddam had these particular tanks of chlorine after the invasion."

4.) "Gee, I guess we were wrong about the danger of WMDs in Iraq. We take back all the things we said about Bush, and acknowledge he was right after all."

5.) "Chlorine has peaceful uses as well as wartime uses, so these don't count as WMDs."
Huh?

First off, 2 and 3 might as well be the same.

Secondly, chlorine is not a WMD. It is, in fact, necessary for human life. 0.00% chlorine, you Die. It's no more a WMD than ozone, carbon dioxide, ammonia or lye. It just happens to be worse than most when you breath it in in large quantities.

Thirdly, and most importantly, these attacks are being carried out Against Saddams Former Party, using makeshift devices slapped on the back of trucks.

Now, be Very Clear.. Are you actually sugesting that Saddam was dumb enough to risk provoking a war by making weapons that can't be used against large numbers of people effectively, only to not use them, and leave them sitting out where his enemies could get to them????

If this is how your "logic" works, I can't see many people on either side taking your rants seriously. Some hardcore cons might back your side out of spite, but that doesn't mean they will actually believe you have a clue. The truth is, you know damn well that these were not part of Iraqs supposed "WMD Arsenal" before the war, and pretending otherwise is degrading to your own reputation and intelligence.

Bottom line, someone who hated Saddam far more than you ever could got ahold of some water purification technology and used it as a chemical laced IED. Sad fact is this was only possible because of the absolute chaos that has exploded since our invasion.

Honestly, what's the point in even spouting something like that off? Why do you really think it was a good idea for us to invade? In your own words, please, and without making up stories.
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