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Old 04-03-2007
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Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

Not a bad idea if you ask me.

Opium for the people: Extraordinary move to legalise poppy crops - Independent Online Edition > Asia

Blair has put a committee together to come up with a proposal to deal with the drug problem in Afghanistan. Legalization is on the table.

Legalizing poppy production could actually deprive terrorists (mainly located in Pakistan) from one of their main sources of funding. All the Afghani farmers want to do is make a buck and they stand to make just as much or more from the poppy crop if the market is opened. It could also be taxed to help the Central government become stronger.

It's surprising that Blair is sponsoring such an initiative while Bush seems to have proposed nothing other than a military solution in Afghanistan.
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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

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Not a bad idea if you ask me.

Opium for the people: Extraordinary move to legalise poppy crops - Independent Online Edition > Asia

Blair has put a committee together to come up with a proposal to deal with the drug problem in Afghanistan. Legalization is on the table.

Legalizing poppy production could actually deprive terrorists (mainly located in Pakistan) from one of their main sources of funding. All the Afghani farmers want to do is make a buck and they stand to make just as much or more from the poppy crop if the market is opened. It could also be taxed to help the Central government become stronger.

It's surprising that Blair is sponsoring such an initiative while Bush seems to have proposed nothing other than a military solution in Afghanistan.


Well, at least Blair's getting it! Wonder how long it will take Bush&Co and the religious neocon conservative's to catch up?

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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

Wow, I didn't see this coming from Blair. Good move.
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Wow, I didn't see this coming from Blair. Good move.
I think it was a damn good move! Now, if only Bush and the religious neocons could figure out that we could get rid of the drug cartels, drug gangs and most of the associated crime the same way....

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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

It will never be allowed. Way too much money is coming from the illegal poppy industry and only a fraction is going to fund terrorism. The rest is going to fund those fighting terrorism and they won't allow the drop in income.
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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

Moby,

Explain your point fully. Are you suggesting that crime-fighting agencies are directly funded by sales of heroin?

I'm in favour of legalisation for the following reasons

1. Reduction in organised crime
2. If it's legal it can be taxed.
3. Identification and treatment of addicts.
4. Reduction in low-level crime

It seems a no-brainer to me: Increase in tax revenue, treat addicts, less demand, less supply.

I'd welcome dissenting views
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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

Without poppy exports, Afghanistan is a welfare state.
Its the responsible thing to do.

For what its worth, poppy is used in legal ways: love that poppy bread.
anyway, Tony Blairs a dork. But his support for POPPY production is kool.
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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

Morphine comes from poppy production

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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

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I think it was a damn good move! Now, if only Bush and the religious neocons could figure out that we could get rid of the drug cartels, drug gangs and most of the associated crime the same way....

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Which makes me wonder why Blair would make such a logical statement that goes against all US policy efforts of poppy eradication, denied by current Afghanistan government. Rummy and the unfunded Medicare prescription plan was the pay back for US pharmaceutical industry political support and they don't deal (pun intended) in morphine.

Could this be a first step in the UK diverting from certain current US policies?
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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

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I think it was a damn good move! Now, if only Bush and the religious neocons could figure out that we could get rid of the drug cartels, drug gangs and most of the associated crime the same way....

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Yup, I'm not into drugs at all, but I guess I have to agree. It is the realistic approach.
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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

Sets a dangerous precedent in the war on drugs, right? I suppose that would be the argument against? I'm think most wars on nouns are a farce anyway.
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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

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Morphine comes from poppy production

Morphine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So does phenagran/codiene cough medicine, as does a lot of the other anesthetics we use.

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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

"But if we lose the war on drugs, it emboldens the terrorists!"

- I just made an excellent neocon argument.
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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

Legalisation is the only sensible way to fight drug related crime of any kind, including the funding of terrorists and war lords. The "War on Drugs" has failed and it will fail in the future. As long as there is an inelastic demand for drugs or any other good, prohibition only creates way more problems than it could ever solve. There should be a regulation on hard drugs (like on potentially harmful medicine) but they should not be illegal either. When people really want to fuck up their life, you can't help them anyway.
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Re: Blair considers Legalizing Poppy in Afghanistan

Isn't this up to the Afghan government, and not Blair?
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