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Old 04-30-2007
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Re: Forced sex okayed for US troops

First you say it was the japanese govt who forced the women - then you say it was traditional prostitution. In traditional prostitution, the woman consents. If force or coersion is involved, it is rape. Good lord, try not to contradict yourself next time.

If any party knows that force or coersion is involved but encourages it to continue and profits by it, then they are a party to rape. This seems rather basic to me.



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Who forced the Japanese women into prostitution? The American G.I.'s who wanted their services or the pimps who saw low supply and increased demand?

Do you know who the Pimps were? They were the Japanese Government!!

You're asking the wrong party for an apology. No rape occurred. It was all traditional prostitution - sex that was paid for. As for the enslavement and forced prostitution, look to the Japanese.

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Re: Forced sex okayed for US troops

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Run of the mill dictator? Don't do much reading do you? If you did, you'd be aware of te million plus deaths directly attributable to Saddam Hussein.

I'm aware of some exagerated numbers - care to send a link on this one? Even a link that shows saddam killed more than are currently dying.

I'm also aware of folks like Idi Amin - he kept his freezer stocked with his enemies and the local rivers ran with blood. I'm aware of genocide currently occuring in darfur. And I'm aware that we invaded in search of imaginary WMD, knowing that Saddam had no way of hitting the US, and no connection to bin Laden.

Not only that, I'm aware that a civil war is still ragin in Iraq, bin laden is free, and the Taliban is slowly retaking Afghanistan because we are spread to thin.
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Re: "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It"

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Not a thing. This is an example of a bait and switch argument. When you lose one, change the subject.

Actualy, it was a main point in the original post. You contend there is no relationship there?
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Re: "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It"

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Actualy, it was a main point in the original post. You contend there is no relationship there?
And what "comfort women" are the US enslaving today?
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Re: Forced sex okayed for US troops

What I find amusing, we're not supposed to go back to WWII for rationale for waging real war, but are for reasons that will bash the US. Good job Dems. You really suck.
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And what "comfort women" are the US enslaving today?
Here it is - from the first post - With all the crap that goes on in Asia today - all the american and rich pedophiles who 'vacation' there - I find it terrifying that officially we are evidently at least 50 years behind in even acknowledging the subject of sex crimes against asians.

Got allies and enemies in the area - how do we address it - the sex crimes of the past, and the ones of today?

BTW - I've got you down for ignoring both.
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What I find amusing, we're not supposed to go back to WWII for rationale for waging real war, but are for reasons that will bash the US. Good job Dems. You really suck.
I'm not a Dem - and you are clearly a pod person Bushie

I didn't know one needed a party affiliation to be against rape. I assume this means you believe that repubs support war crimes.
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I'm not a Dem - and you are clearly a pod person Bushie

I didn't know one needed a party affiliation to be against rape. I assume this means you believe that repubs support war crimes.
Perhaps you really are not a Dem, but then you would have read my other posts, to know I'm not a bush bot, or 'bushie' in you lexicon...
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Re: "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It"

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Here it is - from the first post - With all the crap that goes on in Asia today - all the american and rich pedophiles who 'vacation' there - I find it terrifying that officially we are evidently at least 50 years behind in even acknowledging the subject of sex crimes against asians.
Maybe a dictionary would help you understanding what the term "enslaved" means. The "customer" isn't enslaving anybody. He's paying for services rendered.
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Got allies and enemies in the area - how do we address it - the sex crimes of the past, and the ones of today?
Again, what women are US citizens enslaving?
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Good idea. No need for you to get the shit kicked out of you debating people that do so with facts, not rhetoric and touchy-feely sentiments about the past.
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Old 05-02-2007
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Maybe a dictionary would help you understanding what the term "enslaved" means. The "customer" isn't enslaving anybody. He's paying for services rendered.

Again, what women are US citizens enslaving?


Good idea. No need for you to get the shit kicked out of you debating people that do so with facts, not rhetoric and touchy-feely sentiments about the past.

What women are US citizens enslaving currently - as a public policy, none. But US citizens are going to southeast asia to have sex with small children who are definitely enslaved and not consenting. To you, I assume that is touchy-feely rhetoric. To me that is fact - and the fact that it isn't a govt policy involved doesn't make it any the less horrific.

As for women used by troops in the past, our own govt has recorded the fact that they were not consenting - this is indisputable, and it was the subject of the posted article. You may prefer to call that prostitution. I will stick with the fact that prostitutes are consenting adults, radical that I am.
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Old 05-02-2007
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Umm hmm. Did you happen to notice the wording of him being a writer for the A.P. and not the A.P.???

Check out some of his *cough* work: "Eric Talmadge Associated Press" on Find Articles

The guys a moonbat…

"Moonbat"?

I think you give him way too much credit.
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