Originally Posted by wrxsti

Two things to remember:

1. These are not terrorists, they are freedom fighters - big diference.

2. US policy prohibits the extradition of anyone who may be subject to torture in a foriegn nation. Obviously, he cannot be returned to either Cuba or Venezuela for this reason alone.

Originally Posted by MattLarson

Don't forget the Clinton pardons of the Puerto Rican bomb plotters....

Matt

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Excuse me, if you would like to discuss Clinton's pardons, please make your own thread, I believe the Executive Branch forum would be appropriate. This thread was to discuss why the US is harboring a suspected terrorist.

Do you have any insight/defense for this?

Originally Posted by MattLarson

I guess you didn't feel Goober's post - the one I replied to - discussing Orlando Bosch was off topic, then?

Matt

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Excuse me, if you would like to discuss Clinton's pardons, please make your own thread, I believe the Executive Branch forum would be appropriate. This thread was to discuss why the US is harboring a suspected terrorist.

Do you have any insight/defense for this?

Originally Posted by wrxsti

Two things to remember:

1. These are not terrorists, they are freedom fighters - big diference.

2. US policy prohibits the extradition of anyone who may be subject to torture in a foriegn nation. Obviously, he cannot be returned to either Cuba or Venezuela for this reason alone.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

You're post reeked of partisan "well if Clinton did it, then it must be ok for Bush to do it riiiight?" bullshit.

If that wasn't your intent, then I apologize.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

How bout giving your opinion on the issue of Luis Posada Cariles?

Originally Posted by MattLarson

My intent was to note that the harboring of these dirtbags isn't unique to the Cariles situation.



This is an interesting case. I agree he should be deported, and now that the immigration case is resolved, there is no reason to allow him to remain in the US.

Since we have no extradition treaty with Cuba, I don't think we can legally send him there.

Venezuela wants him, and we still have an extradition treaty with them. It would seem to me that we don't have much choice but sent him there.

I don't know whether he is guilty of the airliner bombing or not. If he is, I hope he either spends the remainder of his days in a cell, or gets the death penalty.

Matt

Originally Posted by MattLarson

Gosh, I am truly sorry I brought up the US pardoning terror suspects in your thread about the US harboring terror suspects.

Whatever was I thinking?

Matt

Originally Posted by goober

Actually Matt, Orlando Bosch and Posada-Carilles were partners in the bombing of a civilian airliner, the people who planted the bomb have already been caught and confessed, they were employees of Bosch and Posada, and both have said that they planted the bomb on orders from Bosch and Posada.

Which of course opens the door for you to jump in with a "Clinton did it too" remark.
I think you were wondering how you could defend Bush, and then you figured well, I'll just say Clinton did the same thing, like I always do, "Deet-Da-Dee"

Originally Posted by MattLarson

Of course, if you actually read post #23, you'll discover that I am not defending Bush.

Sorry to ruin your partisan rant.

Matt

Originally Posted by goober

Nice try Matt, but you are trying to balance out the pardon of people who have been tried and convicted and sentenced and served part of their sentence and expressed remorse, with harboring fugitives who are wanted for the terror bombing of a civilian airliner causing 73 deaths.
Only a blind partisan would try to make that case.

Originally Posted by wrxsti

1. These are not terrorists, they are freedom fighters - big diference.

Originally Posted by wrxsti

2. US policy prohibits the extradition of anyone who may be subject to torture in a foriegn nation. Obviously, he cannot be returned to either Cuba or Venezuela for this reason alone.