Keep on laughing, but you might want to get off the floor. When there's unlimited public money to spend combined with bureacratic and political power gain, few private entites are as fast as the federal government. How about one month?:

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Couldn't, or just didn't feel like it? Quite frankly they didn't feel like sharing info because it might hurt their reputations to have done so. DHS has performed so poorly that I can't help but think that it was conjured up in about 6 months after 9/11 happened.

I myself would prefer it if the DHS would stop sending the FBI to high school students for file sharing

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

YOU stated that DHS could not possibly have been created as quickly as so many of us believe it was. YOU are the one asking us to all not believe what we personally experienced and have recent knowledge of.

DHS WAS created quickly. Government agencies frequently ARE created rapidly. The creation process doesnt take long. What takes forever is the process of dissolving one. As someone once said, there is nothing so permanent as a temporary government program.
Yes as a matter of fact it does.
When it wants to, yes.

Again - do you really think you're the only one who remembers the past 6 years? DHS was formed with a single stroke of the pen in 2002. Hell, it was on its second director by the end of 2003.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

If you think that it went from conception to up and running in the roughly one year that it took, then you are naive. Again, building an agency like that, does not happen overnight.

Couldn't share. No one knew how to share information without jeopardizing field ops. Sharing information with those not allowed to know, or sharing just a little too much leads to worse incidents than Valerie Plame.

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Anyone ask Hillary what kind of underwear she wears, yet?

Lt. Gov Diane Denish on Bill Richardson "The governor, she said, "pinches my neck. He touches my hip, my thigh, sort of the side of my leg."

All this should tell you that it had been in the works longer than "one month". If you think that it took a month to create it, then fine. We disagree on how long it took to create.

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Anyone ask Hillary what kind of underwear she wears, yet?

Lt. Gov Diane Denish on Bill Richardson "The governor, she said, "pinches my neck. He touches my hip, my thigh, sort of the side of my leg."

Immigration is under DHS's umbrella of responsibility. FEMA is also under DHS's umbrella of responsibility.

Need I give more examples of how DHS is broken?

How to fix it? Yes, abolish it. It was created in order to make up for the inadequacies of other departments. So you don't fix DHS, you fix the real problems that exist in it's child departments.

They do all need some way to cooperate and communicate, but they don't need a whole new department to satisfy those needs.

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I think you might be the one expressing naivety. Did you bother to read the link?

You also express a lack of understanding bureaucratic wars which are always about funding. The rivalry between CIA/FBI for budgets has been a public fact ever since J. Edgar.

Your points were already brought up. So far I've seen 3 issues brought up, which happen to be the standard "talking points". Immigration, FEMA and a couple bad releases about tunnels and the Sears tower.

Why is it bad to have immigration under Homeland Security? Aren't the borders something that should fall under "security"? How is that worse than when customs and border protection was under the Dept of Treasury? Customs yes, but border protection in dept of treas?

I agree with the fact that FEMA shouldn't be under it. But they should work closely together.

So yes, please bring up more.

And let's try to be more original and think a little more. Let's have a better answer than, "We don't like it so get rid of it." If your car breaks do you just get rid of it? Why not think of a way to make DHS better?

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Anyone ask Hillary what kind of underwear she wears, yet?

Lt. Gov Diane Denish on Bill Richardson "The governor, she said, "pinches my neck. He touches my hip, my thigh, sort of the side of my leg."

The main answer I've heard for fixing the DHS problem is to disband DHS. Not a bad idea.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

You don't get rid of a vehicle that breaks? That generally means you have it repaired it until it breaks again and again and again until?

DHS has added layers of political bureaucracy and management causing different components to fail on a regular basis while limiting the flexibility and performance of all components. Get rid of it.

Interestingly, many here have claimed that Homeland Security is doing a lot in other areas but can't elaborate or pinpoint any exact activity that is worthwhile and notable to the justification for this state police.

If they are not focusing on terrorism, then they are focusing on citizens.

Immigration is a big problem, but as a priority in wartime? Completely mind boggling.

Don't we have a Border Patrol and an INS to take on immigration issues?

Homeland Security is state police. It's blatantly obvious now.

I have to agree wholeheartedly. The creation of homeland security was nothing but the start of a slide down a slippery slope towards a socialist society.

So then; "How do you know what they are doing is crap"?

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Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

Not inaction at all. It was reagan's action in giving weapons to terrorists as ransom for hostages that convinced the terrorists that we could be intimidated. He crossed a line that never should have been crossed. Other presidents have tried to fight terrorism and made poor decisions that gave poor results. But only reagan put up the white flag of surrender and we're paying the price to this day.

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A nation of slaves is always prepared to applaud the clemency of their master who, in the abuse of absolute power, does not proceed to the utmost extremes of injustice and oppression.
Edward Gibbon

Cannot the Homeland Security be considered as a modern form of Gestapo?

The Gestapo had a lot of collaborators, as you can see in this forum.

"We are on the verge of global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
David Rockefeller - Statement to the United Nations Business Council, 1994

"This is total war. We are fighting a variety of enemies. There are lots of them out there. All this talk about first we are going to do Afghanistan, then we will do Iraq, then we take a look around and see how things stand. This is entirely the wrong way to go about it... If we just let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely, and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy, but just wage a total war . . . our children will sing great songs about us years from now."
Richard Perle, about the war on terrorism


"American capitalism, based as it is on exploitation of the poor, with its fundamental motivation in personal greed, simply cannot survive without force."
Philip Agee, CIA Diary