And my response was to your claim that Reagan was the first to bow to them……Reagan screwed up; I’ve already agreed to that, but it was Carter who threw the first kiss.

If you want to take it to the next level, “Too bad we didn’t learn or accept the terrorist problem that came to light during the Iran-Contra affair investigations”.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

"screwed up???" That was no screwup. It was a conscious decision to break precendent and pay ransom to terrorists. It encouraged every extremist nutcase in the entire world to take his shot and watch the americans cower and pay up. It was a national disgrace,

I have no idea what this means. What did carter do that could possibly be portrayed in this way?

Or "too bad some people act like reagan was some kind of hero instead of a sniveling terrorist enabler".

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Forget it, you obviously don't want to face the facts so there isn't a point in continuing.....You go ahead and blame Reagan for being the first to kiss terrorist ass and I'll stick to history and blame Carter.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

I will be happy to go along with you on this if you can explain what "kiss terrorist ass" means (it sounds suspiciously like "pay ransom to terrorists" and not like "send a combat team to rescue hostages" but maybe that's just me) and cite ANY source that explains when carter did any such thing. So far you have refused to substantiate your silly claims.
I've already posted Ronnie's confession to paying ransom to terrorists so until I hear from you it is pretty obvious who is sticking to "history" here and who is living in a fantasy of some kind.

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A nation of slaves is always prepared to applaud the clemency of their master who, in the abuse of absolute power, does not proceed to the utmost extremes of injustice and oppression.
Edward Gibbon

Your understanding of history is sadly misinformed.

Ok, I may have to eat crow over this.
All I can find is that Carter used diplomatic approaches, nothing that states exactly what he tried.
But IMO diplomatic approaches only work a week or two, after that your kissing their ass.
I still say Carter was was the first though, something had to be wrong when he got nowhere but the hostages were released mere minutes after Reagan stepped in.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

Exactly where?
Or are you here donned with pom poms and kissing up to Timj219's ass?

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

You're saying Carter kissed ass because he refused to bribe militant extremists with money? Strange...

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"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

That is not what I said or was I referring to any such thing.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

No - that is most emphatically not what he said.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

You can say it all you want to. The historical record shows that carter tried (and failed) to rescue the hostages and reagan admitted that he paid ransom to the terrorists. I cannot think of a more stark contrast.

If reagan's confession that he paid ransom to terrorists is not enough to convince some people that he was not a good president (or even a good american) and not tough on terror then I guess those people simply refuse to believe the evidence of their own senses.

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A nation of slaves is always prepared to applaud the clemency of their master who, in the abuse of absolute power, does not proceed to the utmost extremes of injustice and oppression.
Edward Gibbon

Merely pointing out your lack of knowledge regarding past US policy.

It always depends on implementation. Are you implying that adding the layer of the US federal government was a bad thing for the several states?