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Old 05-30-2007
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Fidel Castros message to Bush

is "Ideas cannot be killed"

What amazing things a man/woman with ideas could do with US$100 Billion, that man/woman obviously isn't Bush.

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is "Ideas cannot be killed"

What amazing things a man/woman with ideas could do with US$100 Billion, that man/woman obviously isn't Bush.

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Fidel is being a bit hypocritical regarding use of finances. I mean take a look at his own people's suffering and poverty..

However, he makes a good point about Bush's War spending. Since it was an unnecessary war, the hundreds of billions spent were essentially wasted. The money certainly could have been put to better use.

The notion that "ideas cannot be killed" is an interesting one. It definitely applies to the War on Terror. I imagine Castro, though, is insinuating that his legacy in Cuba will continue.... I'm not sure that will be the case.
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[quote=TheLastBoyScout;1005166]Fidel is being a bit hypocritical regarding use of finances. I mean take a look at his own people's suffering and poverty..

However, he makes a good point about Bush's War spending. Since it was an unnecessary war, the hundreds of billions spent were essentially wasted. The money certainly could have been put to better use.[quote]

or the people could have kept their money. But hey what's the cost of protecting your freedoms from radical muslims?

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The notion that "ideas cannot be killed" is an interesting one. It definitely applies to the War on Terror. I imagine Castro, though, is insinuating that his legacy in Cuba will continue.... I'm not sure that will be the case.
Ideas can be killed and Castro is further illustrating is second rate education.

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Re: Fidel Castros message to Bush

A great title of an essay by a man who has killed and imprisoned persons whose ideas didn't square with his. Castro is a world-class hypocrite.
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A great title of an essay by a man who has killed and imprisoned persons whose ideas didn't square with his. Castro is a world-class hypocrite.
Like american democracy, supporting the dictator Batista!

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Re: Fidel Castros message to Bush

That doesn't make Castro any less of a hypocrite for lecturing ANYONE about "ideas cannot be killed". You have to be the only Vietnamese commie left on the planet.
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Re: Fidel Castros message to Bush

Looks like CUBA needs the Bay of Pigs PART II!!!
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is "Ideas cannot be killed"

What amazing things a man/woman with ideas could do with US$100 Billion, that man/woman obviously isn't Bush.

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That was inspiring!

Castro is a hardliner, but when looking at who he's up against and how America's hate for him knows no end, even after decades, shows how Castro's idea are truly a threat to the establishment and how he did what he had to do to keep that dream alive.

Castro may leave this earth, but his vision lives on through others that hope for a better world than dog-eat-dog capitalism!
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That was inspiring!

Castro is a hardliner, but when looking at who he's up against and how America's hate for him knows no end, even after decades, shows how Castro's idea are truly a threat to the establishment and how he did what he had to do to keep that dream alive.

Castro may leave this earth, but his vision lives on through others that hope for a better world than dog-eat-dog capitalism!
A "hardliner"? A guy who imprisons his fellow Cubans that denouce his socialism, has had his rivals rubbed out and those that fell from his favor turned into "nonpersons", who proclaims himself "President for Life" is just a hardliner? I love it when people makes excuses for all he's done by saying "well, it's only because the USA was on his case". No, he's just a plain old dictator, and would have been with or without us to play Boogeyman.
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...snip...No, he's just a plain old dictator, and would have been with or without us to play Boogeyman.
Castro wouldn't have been able to accomplish what he did without America being a bogeyman.
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Re: Fidel Castros message to Bush

He used us and the threat we represent when it suited his purposes. Like most leaders he has done some good things but on the whole he is just a dictator, where Batista was corrupt and interested in money and self-aggrandizement, Castro wanted to control everyone and everything, and those that disagreed with his vision were dealt with very harshly.
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He used us and the threat we represent when it suited his purposes. Like most leaders he has done some good things but on the whole he is just a dictator, where Batista was corrupt and interested in money and self-aggrandizement, Castro wanted to control everyone and everything, and those that disagreed with his vision were dealt with very harshly.
Your approach is too evident! Try another angle.

Historically, the US was and still is a threat to Cuban sovereignity! - The rise of Castro was by popular will. The US was not able to come to terms with the leader of a sovereign nation, although it was the US that Castro visited right after the "People`s Revolution". Eisenhower refused to see him, and Nixon (the paranoid Mcarthy disciple) labelled him as a communist.

" America's inability to come to terms with revolutionary change in the Third World...has created our biggest international problems in the postwar era. But the root of the problem is not, as many Americans persist in believing, the relentless spread of communism. Rather, it is our own difficulty in understanding that Third World revolutions are primarily nationalist, not communist. Nationalism, not capitalism or communism, is the dominant political force in the modern world. You might think that revolutionary nationalism and the desire for self-determination would be relatively easy for Americans - the first successful revolutionaries to win their independence - to understand. But instead we have been dumbfounded when other peoples have tried to pursue the goals of our own revolution two centuries ago."
Former U.S. Senator Frank Church

"From 1945 to 2003, the United States attempted to overthrow more than 40 foreign governments, and to crush more than 30 populist-nationalist movements fighting against intolerable regimes. In the process, the US bombed some 25 countries, caused the end of life for several million people, and condemned many millions more to a life of agony and despair."
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or the people could have kept their money. But hey what's the cost of protecting your freedoms from radical muslims?
The Iraq war does not protect my freedoms from radical Muslims.
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Ideas can be killed and Castro is further illustrating is second rate education.

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Fidel is being a bit hypocritical regarding use of finances. I mean take a look at his own people's suffering and poverty..

However, he makes a good point about Bush's War spending. Since it was an unnecessary war, the hundreds of billions spent were essentially wasted. The money certainly could have been put to better use.

The notion that "ideas cannot be killed" is an interesting one. It definitely applies to the War on Terror. I imagine Castro, though, is insinuating that his legacy in Cuba will continue.... I'm not sure that will be the case.
It's not just a waste, it's actually hurting us. Terrorism and disorder is increasing thanks to it. Comparatively speaking, spending the money to build a huge rocket to load even more money into it and then send it into space and detonate it would have been less harmful.
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Ideas can be killed yes, but then again so can Castro and its only at our mercy he lives.

What a waste of a thread...
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