Since Israel has only existed since 1948 it's hard to see how muslims have been attacking Israelis for a thousand years. Not so much a case of " Now for the truth " as: Now for the historical inaccuracy.

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Uh, that's kind of like complaining about the marraige practices of David Koresh and claiming he is all of Xtianity! The remnants of the Cohen tribe - Kohenim - regard themselves as having to follow priestly law from 5000+ years ago - at least the extremely hasidic ones do. You're talking about a fringe of a fringe group, one that you actually have to be born into.

As for Ziofacism - where are the Israelis who wrap themselves in bombs and blow up mosques all over the world? What is the morality of using the deliberate murder of civilians as a weapon? And what is this weird little thrill you get with nazism? Show me the palestinian death camps - complete with gassing showers and ovens, the medical experiments being done on unanesthisized children, the lampshades made out of skin, the mattresses stuffed with hair, the soap made out of human fat - then I'll see nazism. The palestinians don't live a whole lot better than the average native american on the rez - but they are not in death camps.

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And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it." --George W. Bush, Jan. 29, 2007

And this is an issue why? The official position of the gaza govt is that Israel should be abolished. Israeli arabs are not restricted. Once gaza palestinians stop blowing up civilians, and lobbing daily rockets over the border, there will be no need to restrict their entry.

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And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it." --George W. Bush, Jan. 29, 2007

It's an issue because Israeli academics are ignoring it/enjoying it/failing to oppose it adequately. You try to paint these students in the same brutal colours as the IOF. They are simply Palestinians seeking an education- the Palestinians of the future.
Your/Zionist supposed paranoia is not an adequate reason for denying Palestinians access to educational institutions, let alone denying them access to parts of their own country. Rather, the 'fear' of these students is an excuse for further apartheid and disruption . Thus the call for a boycott.

Some might say that barring Israeli students from the world's* universities is a disproportionate response to Israelis barring Palestinians from their universities. It seems a perfectly balanced response to me.

* The discussion centres on the UK, but you gotta start somewhere.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

Yeah, moon versus reality. Amazingly, reality doesn't seem to be able to influence it's opponent much in the debate.

Matt

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Well, let's not try to turn yet another thread into an ad hominem troop convention.

The reality is that there is a serious UK move to draw attention to Israeli war crime and humanitarian law abuse. Good luck to it.

Here's a good example of 'blind Zionism'. This guy would have you believe that the British move is NOT a retaliatory move in itself. He portrays it as British aggression, just as the IOF misrepresent Palestinian resistance.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

So every university in the world must be open to every student who ever wants to attend? Otherwise it's bias?

Israel has not barred palestinians - they have barred a resident of gaza. Israeli universities are filled with palestinians - who are Israeli citizens..

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And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it." --George W. Bush, Jan. 29, 2007

The ruling upheld a ban on all Palestinians in Gaza.

The ruling upheld what is generally accepted as the racist policy of the IOF.

Any disruption to normal relations suits the IOF. That's why there's a call for a boycott.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

Of course they had to ban people who have a habit of strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up innocent men, women, and children. It's not because they are Arabs. Arab Israelis go to study in Israeli universities all the time.

Perhaps if people in Gaza and the West Bank stopped launching terrorist attacks, their lives would improve.

By the way, what would happen to Israeli Jews who tried to go to university in Gaza, or Saudi Arabia, or Syria? Would they be arrested and hanged, or would they simply be lynched before they even make it to the university?

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With partners like these peace was possible!

You are as guilty of racism as the IOF if you support their blanket ban on Palestinians. This 'security' crap has been taken to extremes, milked beyond imagination, then taken to extremes again.
If Israelis want the infiltrations into their heartland to cease then they should get the hell out of the Territories. Don't you read about imperialist history and resistance ?

More good news on the peaceful resistance front;

Just suggesting and publicising academic and professional censure highlights the illegitimacy of Israel's brutal policies.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

Of course you are ignoring the fact that this marriage practice is enshrined in current Israeli marriage law controlled by Rabbinical courts. You are ignoring this little tidbit of information.

This is a red herring fallacy. Just because some Muslim radicals engage in suicide bombings "around the world" as you put it does not negate the racialist extremist oppressive nature of Israel

Again, this is a red herring fallacy.

The Israeli's prefer to use F-Class fighter jets and IDF ground troops instead of these alleged 'gas chambers' you speak of to kill! The Israeli's do not make people into soap, they make them into bloody rotting piles of human splatter on the landscape; the Israeli's do not experiment with children they merely butcher them and be done with it though when they do not murder them they use them as human shields.

However, I highly doubt we will observe you condemning Israeli practices anytime in the near future...

The boycott from the jewish perspective;

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

There is no blanket ban on palestinians. There is a ban on residents of another country who like to shoot bombs into Israel.

Kinda like saying it's racism if harvard doesn't take janjaweed students.

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And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it." --George W. Bush, Jan. 29, 2007

"alleged gas chambers"

I think that phrase pretty much establishes your frame of mind. :drool

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And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it." --George W. Bush, Jan. 29, 2007

Interesting ads - looks like a holocaust denial site -



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Jewish Life in an Increasingly Muslim Europe
January 31, 2004

In a caustic piece last month titled "A French Lesson for Tom Harkin," I noted that due to the hostility coming from the Muslim population of France, nearly half of the country's sizeable Jewish population is considering emigration. In this space, I shall provide occasional updates, in reverse chronological order, on the reasons why Jews of Europe, having survived the Holocaust, again worry about their future.

Belgian Jewish group attacked by Turks: Sixty or so teenage Hasidic Jews from Antwerp, out on a trip, were attacked on Nov. 30 in the town of Beringen. The MSM ignored the incident for three days. The blog "Islam in Europe" has stitched together this account:

The incident started when a group of Orthodox Jewish kids ages 13-15 came with several adult escorts to the town in order to spend the weekend. The kids had spent the day having fun and had come to Beringen to sleep over at a youth hostel [in a largely Muslim neighborhood, adds the JTA]. Once the kids stepped out of the buses, they were immediately attacked by a group of Turks who threw stones at them and yelled anti-Semitic slurs. The Jewish kids took cover in an inner corridor of the youth hostel. The Turks threw stones and concrete blocks, breaking dozens of windows in various buildings. Glass and stone fragments littered the floor and beds.

The police showed up but the violence continued for about another hour. Even after police managed to get things under control, the Turkish youth kept hanging round the building. The police informed the organizers of the trip that they could not guarantee the safety of the children and at that the organizers decided to cut short the trip and the group returned to Antwerp [accompanied to the highway by a police escort, adds the JTA]. Ten people were arrested later on, among them six minors and four adults.

(Dec. 5, 2006)

Norwegian Jews warned to lie low: After a man wearing a yarmulke was assaulted on an Oslo street on July 22, the Jewish communal body in Norway, called the Mosaic Religious Community, issued an advisory urging Jews to be discreet. "We have encouraged our members to avoid speaking Hebrew loudly on the street," Anne Sender told the newspaper Vårt Land. To Norwegian Broadcasting she suggested that men reconsider wearing a yarmulke. Despire these warnings, Sender stressed that "the situation for Jews in Norway is better than it has been for a long time." (July 20, 2006)


Denial of Antisemitism: It's horrible enough that Moshe Yitzchak Naeh, 26, a Hasidic Jew, synagogue sexton, and the father of four, was shot in the head and killed while walking down the street in Antwerp early in the morning on Nov. 18. The fact that Naeh was carrying a considerable sum of money (€1,400) which was not stolen, plus that he had no known criminal connections and was walking near a predominantly Muslim area all pointed to the crime being anti-Jewish in nature. That, however, is not what the Belgian authorities have concluded. "There are no signs that racism was involved," stated Dominique Reyniers, a spokeswoman for the Antwerp prosecutor's office. (Nov. 20, 2004)

Moving to Israel: The New York Times reports that "The Jewish Agency, the quasi-governmental body responsible for settling immigrants, reported a doubling in the number of French Jews who arrived last year and in 2002, to more than 2,000 each year, compared with about 1,000 a year in the previous three years. By contrast, worldwide immigration to Israel has sharply declined during the Arab-Israeli violence." (July 4, 2004)

Only Jewish student: Today's International Herald Tribune recounts how the only Jewish student in a French public school outside Paris with a large Muslim minority stopped eating and had nightmares due to the incessant insults and attacks against her, until she and her mother moved to the south of France, where the 13-year-old enrolled in a new school. (Feb. 10, 2004)

"Teacher told to drop Star of David": That's the headline in Norway's Aftenposten. Curiously, the teacher in question, Inge Telhaug is not a Jew but wears a 16-millimeter (0.6-inch) Magen David around his neck, usually under a T-shirt, as a religious symbol: "I see it as the oldest religious symbol we have in our culture, because without Judaism there would be no Christianity." But he was informed by Kjell Gislefoss, principal of the Kristiansand Adult Education Center, where he teaches immigrants about the Norwegian language and culture, that wearing the star could be deemed a provocation towards the many Muslim students at the school. "The Star of David would be a symbol for one side in what is perhaps the world's most inflamed conflict at the moment. Many [students] have a traumatic past that they have escaped and then we feel that if they are going to learn Norwegian then they can't sit and at the same time be reminded of the things they have traveled from." Telhaug refuses to acquiesce and has hired a lawyer. Heidi Hauge Uldal, head of the Education Association in Kristiansand, deemed the school's decision "unacceptable." (Feb. 5, 2004)

Death Chants: During a Belgium-Israel football game on January 28, 2004, reports Le Soir (Brussels), Muslim fans pulled out Hamas and Hezbollah flags, then cried out "Jews to the gas chamber!" "Death to Jews!" and "Strangle the Jews!" To make matters worse, a Belgian soccer player named Mustapha Toukouki, is said to have encouraged these chants. (Jan. 31, 2004)


There's plenty more where this came from - but I imagine that's really your goal. Jewish Life in an Increasingly Muslim Europe [Weblog] - Daniel Pipes

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And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it." --George W. Bush, Jan. 29, 2007