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Old 05-30-2007
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Boycott of Israeli academe backed by UK union.

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Britain's University and College Union (UCU) voted Wednesday in favor of a motion calling for an academic boycott of Israel, in protest of Israel's policy regarding the Palestinians.

According to Britain's The Guardian newspaper, the motion passed by the delegates at the union's conference in Bournemouth calls for each branch of the union to receive details of a boycott request by Palestinian trade unions. The details of the boycott call would be used for "information and discussion," according to a statement that appeared on the UCU Web site following the vote
U.K. union backs calls for boycott of Israel academe - Haaretz - Israel News


Those backing the call for the boycott cite the near-impossibility of an education for a Palestinian , the disruption of civic life by ethnic cleansing and the apartheid wall and the traumas which are an everyday experience for Palestinian students.

The boycott would be designed to shame Israeli academics into going further in their efforts to undermine the brutality of Zionism in their country.
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Re: Boycott of Israeli academe backed by UK union.

I applaud their courageous and moral decision. Bravo. I hope the US will soon realize that it is being an accessory to Israeli apartheid, ethnic cleansing and war crimes.

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Re: Boycott of Israeli academe backed by UK union.

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I applaud their courageous and moral decision. Bravo.
It still may not be implemented. The UK has a powerful Israel Lobby of its own.
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Re: Boycott of Israeli academe backed by UK union.

reminds me of the hobbit.

the evil men that sided with the sauron guy and his army of orcs.
they rode on big elephants in the movie.
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israel lobby = bad.
palestine lobby = good.
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Re: Boycott of Israeli academe backed by UK union.

The wrong decision if you ask me, I'm hardly a great fan of Israel, but this will achieve no purpose and actually might make things worse. How so ? Well much of the opposition to Israels policies and so on actually comes from within academic circles, by doing this you'll stifle those voices and actively encourage a more entrenched bunker mentality.
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i wonder what would happen if we boycotted palestinians from achieving education in our countries and cite ' palestine's policy regarding israel.'
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Re: Boycott of Israeli academe backed by UK union.

In some ways, the Israeli Jews had this coming. We now live in a world where we froun upon pretty much everything remotely racist. Yet we apparently should have little problem with an ethno-cracy with bizarre racist laws, rules and regulations.

I'm not God and maybe my judgement is flawed, but I am in favor of such a boycott.
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ah good some more isreal bashing just what the board needs
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Re: Boycott of Israeli academe backed by UK union.

It's about time...
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Re: Boycott of Israeli academe backed by UK union.

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The wrong decision if you ask me, I'm hardly a great fan of Israel, but this will achieve no purpose and actually might make things worse. How so ? Well much of the opposition to Israels policies and so on actually comes from within academic circles, by doing this you'll stifle those voices and actively encourage a more entrenched bunker mentality.
I believe it far more likely, as did the majority of the delegates, that censure from abroad will galvanize the Israeli intelligentsia into an active role in Israeli politics and so provide a check for low-brow Zionism which currently perpetrates the crimes under discussion.

The 'entrenched bunker mentality' is already running the country and that is believed to be , in part, because of the lack of pressure from within.

Imagine America with most of its politically-connected Liberals declaring withdrawal and retreat to the laboratories and libraries. Imagine if the patriotic numbnuts controlled every aspect of American life unopposed.

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ah good some more isreal bashing just what the board needs
I rest my case.
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ah good some more isreal bashing just what the board needs
You are trying to be sarcastic, but you don't know how right you would be if you were not.
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Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni on Friday conveyed to her British counterpart Margaret Beckett the severity with which Israel views the intentions of a British lecturers union to boycott Israel's academic institutions.

In a telephone conversation between the two, Livni told her colleague that the British University and College Union's (UCU) boycott plans are in utter conflict with the good relations maintained by Israel and Britain.

FM to U.K. counterpart: Israel views boycott calls with severity - Haaretz - Israel News
Beckett is easily bullied, apparently.

Still, maybe she told Livni that the UK fights against ethnic cleansing and apartheid ? Dream on.
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Re: Boycott of Israeli academe backed by UK union.

This boycott reeks of hypocrisy.

Interesting isn't it, that these British academics (who I'm sure are morally impeccable and not biased in any way) discuss boycotting only Israel in the name of academic freedom.

And while they're taking this "courageous stand" for academic freedom, what better way than to deny academic freedom to students and professors who happen to be from Israel purely based on their nationality.

Why is it that they don't discuss boycotting other countries whose policies they don't agree with, like the US, Russia, or China?
Maybe those countries are too big and boycotting them would actually mean risking some kind of consequences, it's much easier picking on a small country like Israel.

These enlightened British academics aren't going to boycott countries with far worse human rights records and where academics face far worse oppression like Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, or Zimbabwe, are they? No, that would be wrong. Let's single out just one country and ignore their reasons for implementing strict security measures, and let's ignore other countries doing far worse all over the world. Let's just single out Israel which is the only country in the region which actually gives all its citizens academic freedom including Arab Israelis (Palestinians who live within the Israeli borders and who have equal citizenship).

Palestinians are not Israeli citizens, and they would be the first to say that they live outside of Israel. Nobody is denying that they are living in harsh conditions, but in fact the conditions of Palestinians living in surrounding Arab countries are often far worse. Remember, Israel handed Gaza and most of the West Bank to the Palestinian Authority. If they would stop the constant terror attacks against Israel it wouldn't be forced to take security measures which make life in the Palestinian territories more difficult.

By the way, perhaps someone should remind these British academics that Britain itself is currently engaged in two wars in that very same region, and responsible for displacing tens of thousands of people and disrupting their former way of life (as it was under Saddam or the Taliban). Not to mention their long history of imperialism and oppression which is the reason for many of the conflicts in the Middle East.

I guess this is their idea of defending academic freedom and the free exchange of ideas. By denying students and professors these very rights purely based on their nationality.
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