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Better than under Hussein, huh?

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I can't imagine why they aren't thanking us for showing them democracy.

But hey, increased terrorism, billions of dollars wasted, tens of thousands of Iraqis killed and thousands of US troops killed (many more wounded) is a small price to pay if it let's Bush save face and avoid admitting it was a big enough mistake to withdraw after lying about WMDs. Right guys?

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USAID: Assistance for Iraq

You might do some research here for a contradiction. Im also kind of tired of your overuse of sarcasm.

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Well, I quoted and underlined the specific portions of my articles. Why not show me the same courtesy?

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It seems kind of pointless to cherry pick a few stats, as this doesnt tell the whole story. I simply thought you should stop mindly listening to the press and get some real information from the people actually doing the reconstruction.

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yes, the good news is that over 600 Iraqis have taken small business courses, this should put to rest the notion that no progress has been made, and that the lack of electricity and water should be considered as negative.
After all, a group of Iraqis, who's number roughly equals the weekly death toll, now know that debits go on the left and credits go on the right.

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I read their accomplishments section and there is a distinct lack of comparisons to pre-invasion conditions. Any reasonable standard of accomplishment would make that comparison. The fact of the matter is that after US destruction of Iraq's infrastructure and four years of war Iraq's infrastructure, economy and basic living conditions are still far below pre-invasion conditions. I don't know what you do for a living but by any standard I'm familiar with that would be considered failure. But we haven't been what could by any stretch of the imagination be termed successful in rebuilding from Katrina, have we? Our resources now go to the war machine, not civilians.

I dont think that the federal govt should be rebuilding Katrina, so its moot. As for Iraq, preinvasion standards are subjective. Im simply balancing the information. You can decide for yourself how its going.

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Crummy.

Reading from several reports - I find that overall things are going very well in Iraqs provinces where a moderate level of peace has been established. Basra for example completed its water pump system in Jun 2007 and that province now has far BETTER water than they EVER had under Sadam -

ABC reported way back in 2005 that Iraq had nearly reached its prewar level of water supplies to all heavily populated areas (5.25 Billion gal per day) and that Iraq was on track to meet the end of year goal (2006) of 7 billion gallons per day....they also reported that rural areas were the only ones not getting fresh water yet....but that has long been the case in Iraq - and was not due to war having destroyed infrastrucure.

If you actually give a shit about what happens to the Iraq people, you would demand our troops help the Iraqis establish peace and root out the terrorists in the entire region so that building and re-building can proceed as quickly as possible....not demand our troops LEAVE as quickly as possible.

Establishment of basic necessities provides jobs and order. Water. electric and sewage plants bring hope and a better potential life for those who have never before had hope.

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this is war is criminal..it is hurting everyone..americans, iraqis and iraq's neighbors but anything goes for this administration if it is for their gain..let the civilians suffer, let the troops die, get injured..no one NO ONE cares..such a same for democracy!!

now there are reports that a provincial governor and police chief have been killed..so much for progress..

bhumika
politics desk,the newsroom

Notice how the farther back you go, the better things were.

There's a clue there if you are up to it............

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Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Source for this? Furthermore, how does one improvement in one province equal "better overall?" Doesn't my quote address the overall picture by saying Iraqis instead of "those Iraqis in that province in this situation?"Which war? Do you mean when the US flattened Iraq? And how does "almost reaching prewar levels" equal "better than ever overall?"Uh, the Iraq conflict is what increased the Jihadist movement and killed Iraqis.And by "never before" you of course mean "never before, assuming it's after the 2003 invasion," correct? But yes, I'm not surprised that some things aren't quite as bad as the time when the US was flattening Iraq. You could nuke an area and it would at least not be as hot when the flames die out.

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Yeah, well some back-up just returned!

Gem

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Worse than crummy. Baseless would be closer to the truth.

Gem

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Is that why the taps in about half the homes and businesses in Baghdad have run dry over the last couple of weeks, Sumyd?

Gem

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