We already subsidize housing for a large portion of our population, which includes free food, free clothes, free cable, free utilities, and get this free health care. It's called prison.

Why should prisoners get more than the general population?

Maybe the homeless should just find a way to get their hands on a couple ounces of crack, so they can get busted and sent to prison.

You are the only one advocating free housing, clothing, and food; though I don't see the downside to providing such things (except for maybe a corrupt administration).

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

You mean like in the military?

Can I ask a question here?

If I have discovered that I have a diease which needs a costly treatment which I have no insurance for I can go out break a law get sent to jail and get treated for nothing?

Pretty much.

or you could just show up to the ER and they HAVE to treat you. Only downfall is the wait times

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I said Conservative not necessarly Republican or Democrat. Liberals are in both of those parties.

You can assume that but it does not.

You're hardly the first person to suggest that clause authorizes the government to spend money wherever it wishes, but what you're forgetting (or ignoring) is that clause is modified and restricted by following sections of the Constitution.

Keep reading. You'll get it eventually.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

You do realize what the military receives is in compensation for duties performed, do you not?

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

Why not simply show me the text you claim ?
That way it won't be misconstrued.

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Read it yourself. Its immediately following the sentence you cherry-picked out of context.

"General welfare of the United States" does not equate to "charity" or "pay for the things that someone doesn't want to provide for himself so he pretends its a right".

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Hmm? So unless it is clearly stated in the constitution, it's not covered under law ?
How about the part where it says the President can issue Signing Statements rather than using his constitution power of the VETO ?

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While I was on active duty, the military gave me some money each month for housing, but that was it. It would be enough money, each month, to buy a really nice tent.

Food? The Navy paid for my food with what was known as "COMRATS" (commuted rations). It was far closer to a McDonald's budget than a fine dining budget. Also, when I was stationed on a ship, that money went away. Sure they fed me but, hey, they're also taking me out to sea.

Clothing? The military doesn't pay for a stitch of clothing. I don't know where people get that idea. When a new recruit gets his uniforms in basic training, they moeny for those uniforms is pulled out of the recruit's pay...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Correct. The government may only do what is explicitly permitted, and everything else is prohibited. That concept is codified and clarified in the 9th and 10th amendments. (BTW - Constitution is capitalized - it is a proper noun. Not discounting your position through the grammar police, just making you aware of proper usage)
Thats a blatant and intentional misrepresentation of signing statements, pushed by people who should know better to distort the perceptions of those who do not. Signing statements have been used since the beginning of this country and they carry precisely zero force of law. They are nothing but the comments of the signer.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

Unfortunately Steve, a lot of people are under some serious misconceptions about the military and what/how it pays/compensates the troops. If they knew the facts, it might truly horrify some of them.

The fact that some of the lower ranking NCO's make barely enough to feed their families, and in some cases, qualify for food stamps, for example, is beyond offensive to me. Even moreso when you consider the demands placed upon those men and women.

Were the people on active duty to have jobs in the private sector with similar responsibilities, they would be compensated extremely well. When looking at the responsibilities of either E-6 or O-4 and above, private sector compensation would easily be in the 6 figures - yet the military pays them peanuts.

Thank you for your service Steve - I mean that sincerely. Those who have never had contact with the armed forces outside of a protest march, will never truly understand what you do.

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Well, what I did. I retired from the Navy almost seven years ago.

I laugh at people like you describe. They know nothing of the topic, yet they speak as though they're absolute authorities on the issue. In all cases, they're complete fools.

They believe that "being in the military" means to "serve George Bush". Of course, we know, it doesn't. It's a service to country. People who do it don't decide to do it, or continue to do it, because of who's in the White House.

I signed up while Jimmy Carter was President, and served while Reagan, Bush, and Clinton were in the White House. Who the CINC was didn't matter to me when it came time to decide whether or not I should stay in or get out.

The myopic hammerheads who are critical of the military, though, will never understand what military service means. They'll blurt out about how people can't get a job, are lazy, can't get into college, etc. Those instances are very few and far bewteen, yet the hammerheads present them as if they're the majority of cases.

The hammerheads are ignorant and stupid, you see. They're just too ignorant and stupid to realize it...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

So then you should not have any problem with the rest of society receiving a "little money" each month to purchase a nice tent.

I just watched a show not too long ago on Discovery Channel about life aboard an aircraft carrier. They were chatting with the executive chef and with those serving aboard the ship about how nutritional and good the food is. They discussed the importance of quality nutrition, which makes sense to me.

What makes them so special that they get free food?

There are plenty other people who do honourable work for poor wages. Why can't they get free food?

Danno - its called "compensation", not "charity". Active duty military are paid for a job they perform.
Great. You watched TV. I'm happy for you.
Again, its not free. Do PLEASE try to understand this concept.
Are you retarded? Seriously - I'm not trying to insult you, I genuinely wish to know if you have a learning and/or comprehension disability.

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