DEA Attacks Medical Marijuana Patients, Caregivers, and Providers

All Democratic Presidential Candidates Pledge to End Medical Marijuana Raids,

Why Don't More Republicans Oppose the DEA's Medical Marijuana Raids?

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Marijuana Policy Project - Bush backs states' rights on marijuana

Well Gee Golly Gosh, President G W Bush, a flip-flopper ?
I guess this proves, candidates will say anything to get the votes.

Marijuana Policy Project - Medical Marijuana in Congress

H R 3093 ~ Hinchey medical marijuana amendment

Paid for by selling a dangerous drug ?

Drug Scheduling @ DEA, Drug Scheduling

(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

Cannabis rescheduling in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cannabis reform at the international level - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Senate Panel Approves Huge Tobacco Tax To Fund Child Healthcare

1.) Does Tobacco qualify to be classified as a Schedule I drug ?
2.) Should Tobacco and Marijuana fall under similar shedualing by the DEA ?
3.) Would you support either raising Tobacco to the same schedual as Marijuana or keep Tobacco as it is, and reschedual Marijuana to match Tobacco's legal classification ?

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The Hypocrisy must end !

Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

We, the People of this great Nation are the sole arbiter of justice and law.
We, the People must impose our will on government either through "petition of the Government
for a redress of grievances" or through the ballot box.

End this hypocritical madness now !
Either raise Tobacco to the same schedual as Marijuana or keep Tobacco as it is,
and reschedual Marijuana to match Tobacco's legal classification.

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So this is how liberty ends... with thunderous applause
In a Democracy, Silence is Permission

1) George Bush is a total douche, so the fact that he's caught flip-flopping constantly isn't really all that surprising to me.

2) Unfortunately as long as federal law trumps state law (as it should) states passing marijuana statutes etc, should expect these raids.

Now if the DEA got diminished powers and some of the ridiculous laws that have been passed get repealed then maybe, we can focus on actually "winning" the fictional "war on drugs".

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

Agreed but, what about this question ?

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So this is how liberty ends... with thunderous applause
In a Democracy, Silence is Permission

That isn't a very apt comparison. Unlike marijuana, tobacco is not intoxicating/impairing.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

While Tobacco isn't intoxicating (I think) alcohol most definetly is, and the DEA has too much time on it's hands. I wish they'd raid Ben's Fine Wine and Spirits. They sell abusive substances in broad daylight.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

I'm in favor of the immediate decriminalization/legalization of all drugs - you'll get no argument from me about the uselessness of the fucking DEA.

I was just pointing out that comparing marijuana to tobacco and saying "if one is legal, so must be the other" is creating a false dilemma. It would make more sense if cigars were illegal and cigarettes were legal to make the "part and parcel" argument. And, FWIW, tobacco will produce mild stimulant intoxication in people who are not used to it, but it does not impair judgment or motor skills. Marijuana significantly impairs judgment and motor skills.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

If it was a case of cigarettes/cigars (one legal, the other not) then there would be a case i agree.

On the alcohol part is any liquid illegal/banned under governmental regulation?

OK fair enough but, what about the comparrison between Industrial Hemp being classified as a schedual 1 drug and Tobacco not being classified ?

Forget Marijuana, let's discuss the hypocrisy of Tobacco being legal and unrestricted and the legality of Industrial Hemp.

Industrial Hemp contains almost no active drug, which makes it inert for that purpose yet, it is still classified as a schedual 1 drug.

Both could be considered a cash crop except ones sole purpose is to be consumed by humans, causes disease and death while the other could only be utilized as an industrial commodity.

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So this is how liberty ends... with thunderous applause
In a Democracy, Silence is Permission

Drug legislation has nothing to do with what's good or bad for people. It's pure politics.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Sorry to bust in on the Bash Bush (again) party...but this should have happened a loooooooong time ago, California officials made the choice to look the other way to the point that these "stores" were absolutely nothing more than the "friendly neighborhood drug pusher...store"
Perhaps you haven't seen the reports...undercover cops went in several of these establishments and with no medical complaints waltzed in and out with bags of dope.
It was a ridiculous situation that made a mockery of US law.
Marijuana is illegal except for "Medical Necessity" - these shops were selling pot to virtually anyone who came in the door...you could (as reporters with hidden cameras did in numerous ones) walk in, simply say you have been feeling depressed - AND WITH NO MEDICAL EXAMINATION..walk out with pot.

And excuse me for saying that blasting the D.E.A. for uploading drug laws is...stupid.

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The capitalist will sell us the very rope from which we will hang them...in time. - Josef Stalin

I wouldn't blast a useless special interest group for trying to keep itself in business - it's a rational behavior. I'm blasting the existence of the DEA in the first place. It's a waste of my fucking tax money to pay the government to prevent me from smoking a joint. I already have a mommy, thank you very much.

And stores selling pot... methinks that's probably a lot safer than buying it from some dude you meet in an alley. In fact, it sort of reminds me of a liquor store, except that the pot vendors are selling a far less destructive, addictive, and generally poisonous thing than alcohol.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Out of curiosity, do you think that states should have sovereignty to decide on drug laws for themselves (i.e. what the constitution has to say on the matter)? Or, do you think it really ought to be a federal concern, to the point where the feds go in and piss all over states' rights?

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Are they upholding their own drug law by turning a blind eye to this requirement ?

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So this is how liberty ends... with thunderous applause
In a Democracy, Silence is Permission

You're barking up the wrong tree here, owl. Those determinations were made ex post facto in an attempt to retroactively justify Nixon wiping his ass with the constitution and declaring drugs federally illegal. They're not usable heuristics unless there's some sort of special interest in banning a drug - then the drug is pigeonholed wherever it's politically expedient on the "schedule". You'd be hard pressed to find any drug without some ostensible medical use.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Ah; the superfluous, highly expensive law enforcement publicity effort, federal trampling of states rights and missed opportunity for a nice tax revenue stream. When we shoot ourselves in the foot we never miss.