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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
Both of which, I presume, were his property. What exactly is unjust about what he did?
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
Law and justice are not always the same thing. Is your position that which holds that the law is always morally right/just?
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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image. Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already. |
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
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In this case: The law is in accord with reason. It is both logical and rational to understand why a people would not want a symbol of their national soverignty subjugated to that of another. The law is directed at the common good. It takes into account the rational assumptions advanced under the argument which supports that the law is in accord with reason. The law was enacted by a legitimate ruling authority. Unless you care to prove that the government of the United States of America is illegitimate, a premis for which I doubt a rational argument can be made. Therefore, the law itself is legitimate (lex legalis), and worthy of enforcement. You may not like it, and you may not consider it "just". But as a legitimate law to have to obey it.
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
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How about unpopular comedians? Few want to hear them. Let's ban them, huh? Quote:
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
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a society where the laws are not enforced with proper punishments will lead to chaos and civil disorder...which is what has occurred in this instance....and which, I believe, will continue in greater numbers if the mexicans want to continue to press the issue.
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More will come. If you don't like it, change the law. you arguments are not based on societal relevance - and therefore are rather irrelevant.
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
What does that have to do with what I said?
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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image. Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already. |
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
Of course; you can't get a date or a job and, once you get your prostitute, she probably won't want to sit on the handlebars of you Schwinn...
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
From what I understand, the 'law' only applies to government agencies. Therefore, the Bar owner didn't actually break any law. He is free to fly any flag he wants over private property.
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
i like alex signature i hope he makes more
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
Let's just hope the bar owner has exercised his 2nd Amendment rights and has the firepower sufficient to deal with such a wave of trespassers and vandals.
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
Sure, 'cause that'll land his ass in jail faster than anything else. Simple trespassing and vandalism fall short of the requirements for the use of deadly force...
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Re: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
too bad. if you felt the same way about speed limits, I guess you would think its fine for those who broke the speed limit to go unpunished.
Obviously there are some (ie vets) who feel very strongly about our flag and will perform acts of vigilantism if the law is not upheld...if the mexicans want that to occur...let them.
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