"Disclosed?" By whom? Moon? Who claims it is "virtually" controlled. When you've been here longer you will realize Moon is a one subject troll.

The article makes no such claim. The closest the article will come to such an accuswation is to point out some of the staff once worked for israeli intelligence. Big mystery there, right? That an israeli capable of translating arab and pharsee would have been assigned to military intelligence while doing his national service?

The fact is that Memri produces accurate translations of official arab government newspapers and official arab government tv shows. These articles are not from fringe group nutcase newspapers and television. The fact is the arab governments do not dispute the contents of the memri translations. The fact is that if israeli media contained anything even remotely like these tv shows we've been discussing, moon and frank and bart would be posting them here every day. So far I've seen nothing. Have you?

The article was published in the western world's most strident "mainstream" anti israel newspaper. Moon quotes from the guardian on a daily basis because they always provide quotes he can use in his campaign. And the article says the translations are accurate. If Israel's most vocal western opponent says the translations are accurate how can it simultaeneously be "compromised"? That just makes no sense to me.

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You couldn't detect a stink if you were slapped with an old fish. Wake up. MEMRI is controlled by Israeli ex-intelligence officers. The only other MEMRI staff that the article writer could locate was one academic and an ex stand-up comedian.
That wouldn't happen to be you, would it ?

Hold on Tim; Memri is owned and headed by Yigal Carmon...

Has anybody read 'Peace, Morality and Fitness' by Ariel Sharon ?

Lol.

While that isn't my quote let me just say...

I will be sure to deride the next Christian nation that wants to have a religous crusade...

There are lots of sources accusing MEMRI of their bias.

Abu Aardvark: MEMRI's disgusting partisanship

MEMRI Watch

Amongst other.

Now you can dismiss all of these links as being left wing or jihadist. But it would be wiser to accept the fact that MEMRI isn't totally what it seems.

Again, I'm not implying that MEMRI's translation of the Syrian TV series is wrong, just telling you to watch them with a critical eye.

Btw, if their true goal would be to improve understanding between the different cultures, wouldn't it be fair of them to also mention the subject of the thread? So far, no word. Maybe they don't like positive news coming out of Iran?

MEMRI: Iran

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Lol. It looks like an hasbara nosebag.

This is all wonderful stuff. It's also exactly what I said in my first post addressing MEMRI's credibility.

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I assume you refer to this quote?

Iranian state TV runs series on Holocaust in primetime

If so, you are mistaken that that would be the only complaint about MEMRI. Not only seems MEMRI to fail to bring the Israeli media outltes, but it clearly only picks the news items from the ME press fauna when it fits their agenda. As an illustration, I provided the link to their unbiased overview of the Iranian media.
Finally, there are also several complaints about the accuracy of their translations.

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Actually I was referring to the first part of the quote alsoSo you think the fact that they don't reproduce the entire content of the arab press is a valid criticism?
"Several" complaints? For an outfit who has translated tens of thousands of articles - most of which either expose the real agenda of the arab governments who publish the content or quote dissident arab journalists? I'd say that's a damn fine record.

Basically the complaint comes down to whining that MEMRI won't do the arab governments' job for them and attempt to show that some government press somewhere - anywhere - contains material as hateful and dehumanizing as the television broadcasts we've been talking about.

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If you also claim to be a little bit critical towards MEMRI, why do you have so much trouble with me calling them 'a little bit biased'?

MEMRIWATCH.org is following-up on a constant base. You may want to browse their overview of MEMRI inaccuracies and/or bias.
With regard to the 'real agenda', is that the real agenda, or the agenda MEMRI would love us to believe is the real agenda. In the former case, can you explain why there would not be any word about the thread topic, or why the current news-list on Iran, is indiscriminately negative?

MEMRI claims to have a goal to bring the several cultures in the ME closer together. They don't live up to that. On the opposite, they seem to focus on every news item that could drive cultures apart.

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If you look at the posts you will see my objection was not to "a little bit biased". It was to "busted', "compromised", "controlled by Israeli intelligence"I keep up with MEMRIwatch on a regular basis. Because "I personally never believe any source unreservedly - including Memri." As for the real agenda those articles and television shows are not made up by MEMRI. They are broadcast on official Arab government television to every arab in the middle east. And they are printed in official arab government newspapers. MEMRI is not digging through nutcase fringe media for this stuff. It's right there in the official government organs. And if it's disseminated through government controlled media it is reasonable to assume it is the "real agenda" of that government.

Once again, it is not MEMRI's job to reproduce the entire content of the official arab press. If the arab leaders want the enire contents translated it would be the easiest thing in the world to just publish accurate english translations of all their official newspapers and television shows. That would instantly put MEMRI right out of business. I personally would have no problem at all with that.
I don't believe that is their goal. I also don't think it's relevant to the accuracy of the translations. But it is one of the reasons "I personally never believe any source unreservedly - including Memri."

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well its certainly true that in general American knowledge of Iran is limited. I mentioned this show several weeks ago WRT Ahmedinejad's speech at Columbia.

I also mentioned that the 25,000 Jews who live in Iran have their own member of Parliament. I've also seen people here post that Iranians are living inthe stone age, and when I cite a BBC production that shows that modern Iran has many of the same issues as many western nations, obviously my sources are suspect.

There is a lot of stuff that people here OBVIOUSLY don't know about Iran, and yet they feel quite comfortable sitting in judgement of the whole population of Iran, and many here seem to believe that using military force against that country would be justified.

Really - we hear talk of how Iranians hate the US, (which is deemed to be irrational hatred based on their religion) but from what I've seen here, the same thing applies to a significant number of Americans who are interested in discussing politics.

not relevant.

I don't see evidence this person is a troll - I think most of us come here to express opinions - and I don't see how that necessarily equates to trolling.

calling other posters names without it being warranted, however - may well make you a troll.

Abolutely - and this lack has been identified as a problem over and over again.