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Old 10-19-2007
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Re: Bush threatens with World War III

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Hmm, interesting, I would like to know where I posted that?

If you are falsely insinuating that I posted something, that I did not post, isn´t that against forum rules? If it isn´t, then it should be!

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"hence" the word "LIKE." (See above for a real quote)

Works wonders. Also, I did not quote you. I used quotes. Two different things. Learn.

(Also, I was correct)
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Old 10-20-2007
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Re: Bush threatens with World War III

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There is no evidence of an US attack on Iran. Stop perpetuating the myth. Like Iraq, Iran will have plenty of warning if we ever decide to invade.
Of course not. The US did just label Iran as part of an "axis of evil", waged two wars of aggression against it's neighbours, installed friendly regimes and dozends of military bases with over a hundred thousand soldiers, creating a military encirclement, and is constantly discussing if an attack on Iran is necessary. And leading politicians of this administration advertise this idea day by day. BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO F*CKING SIGN THAT THE US IS PREPARING AN ATTACK.
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Old 10-20-2007
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So, do you think Iran having nuclear weapons will be a positive thing for the rest of the world?

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If Iran has a sufficient no. of nukes to sufficiently decimate Israel, in the event that either the US or Israel threaten to strike at Iran, absolutely.

And if the US imposes sanctions on Iran because of it, Iran can just sell some of its nukes to ol' Hugo Chavez to get some extra $
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Because before he leaves office, Bush will make sure Iran won't be capable of creating nukes.

(at least not for a long time to come)
Iran is more likely to get nukes if the babybush remains Pres. After all, it was the dullard-in-chief that Chalabi duped to get the US to attack Iraq.
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This statement is a glaring demonstration of the benefit of proxy fighting. Either MyLai is ignorant to the actions of Iran's proxy fighters or he relies upon their clandestine nature to further his propaganda objectives.
Seems only fair considering the King of Proxy Fighters--we all know which country that is.
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Sure - will this also by extension constitute an argument that Iran is an 18th century nation?



Yup - The Saudi regime is brutal and oppressive. No doubt about it.

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That's why bush loves that regime so much--it's a shining example of his plan to spread democracy in the ME.
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Old 10-20-2007
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Re: Bush threatens with World War III

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"hence" the word "LIKE." (See above for a real quote)

Works wonders. Also, I did not quote you. I used quotes. Two different things. Learn.

(Also, I was correct)
You mean basic lesson in propaganda, leaving the impression but never having said it.

"Like" Iraq having WMDs or "like" Iran planning to use nuclear bombs on Israel.

Like your rethoric reminds me very much of Fox TV.
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Of course not. The US did just label Iran as part of an "axis of evil", waged two wars of aggression against it's neighbours, installed friendly regimes and dozends of military bases with over a hundred thousand soldiers, creating a military encirclement, and is constantly discussing if an attack on Iran is necessary. And leading politicians of this administration advertise this idea day by day. BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO F*CKING SIGN THAT THE US IS PREPARING AN ATTACK.
Exactly right, and no need to yell. It is the media that is urging an attack on Iran, not the president.
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Exactly right, and no need to yell. It is the media that is urging an attack on Iran, not the president.
Well, just my two cents: there had been an attack years ago if Iraq had happened the way Bush thought his minions had planned it. Now US forces are stuck in the concentration area and can't attack. And yet I am not convinced that this will stop US-politicians from declaring war, anyway. Their rethoric is still the same it was in the eve of the Iraq disaster.
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Re: Bush threatens with World War III

Indeed, we must understand that the reason why the whole war program was organized - accoring to the PNAC - dominance in the region and destruction of Iran. Somehow Bush wasted his 911 as he was not brave enough to attack Iran first even if it was the original purpose. He decided to take the step-by-step destruction of the countries and now his time has run out with Iran. And now it is extremely difficult to motivate Americans to pay the next war ... and also to conduct a new 911-type of false flag operation as the whole world is waiting for it ... and also some plans have been leaked out and had to be rejected (sinking MSS Enterprise, B52-nukes, etc).

Hitler had the same strategy, but he was much better organized as Bush. Some documents say that many German Nazies are/were working in CIA. This will explain why the documents and strategies of the Bush Administration (actually neocon Hawks) are completely similar. Hitlers PNAC and Bush's PNAC are 1:1. Also the speeches of Bush have many similarities with Goebbels and Hitler - so they have studied well the Nazi methodology. And WW3 will be the ultimate goal of the neo-nazies as well.
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Indeed, we must understand that the reason why the whole war program was organized - accoring to the PNAC - dominance in the region and destruction of Iran. Somehow Bush wasted his 911 as he was not brave enough to attack Iran first even if it was the original purpose. He decided to take the step-by-step destruction of the countries and now his time has run out with Iran. And now it is extremely difficult to motivate Americans to pay the next war ... and also to conduct a new 911-type of false flag operation as the whole world is waiting for it ... and also some plans have been leaked out and had to be rejected (sinking MSS Enterprise, B52-nukes, etc).

Hitler had the same strategy, but he was much better organized as Bush. Some documents say that many German Nazies are/were working in CIA. This will explain why the documents and strategies of the Bush Administration (actually neocon Hawks) are completely similar. Hitlers PNAC and Bush's PNAC are 1:1. Also the speeches of Bush have many similarities with Goebbels and Hitler - so they have studied well the Nazi methodology. And WW3 will be the ultimate goal of the neo-nazies as well.
This is a new level of silliness, even from you.



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Old 10-21-2007
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This is a new level of silliness, even from you.



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Remember West-Germany became a US ally after the war. I know for a fact that the KGB employed Germans to work for then, why would the CIA not employ Germans?
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Old 10-21-2007
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Re: Bush threatens with World War III

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Aren´t you an attentive fellow? - Do you ever write more than one line?

But nonetheless a true observation, I have not witnessed White Rabitt rewriting history. That would be a too complex agenda for this persona, I suppose.

Furthermore, this attempt in sarcasm seems to overburden your capacities.
Wow. Just wow.

Apparently the reason that no one here agrees with MyLai is that we are all just too stupid to handle the truth.

I should have known. It is always the way.
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Remember West-Germany became a US ally after the war. I know for a fact that the KGB employed Germans to work for then, why would the CIA not employ Germans?
Analyst said that "German Nazies" are working for the CIA. Present tense.......

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Re: Bush threatens with World War III

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Indeed, we must understand that the reason why the whole war program was organized - accoring to the PNAC - dominance in the region and destruction of Iran. Somehow Bush wasted his 911 as he was not brave enough to attack Iran first even if it was the original purpose. He decided to take the step-by-step destruction of the countries and now his time has run out with Iran. And now it is extremely difficult to motivate Americans to pay the next war ... and also to conduct a new 911-type of false flag operation as the whole world is waiting for it ... and also some plans have been leaked out and had to be rejected (sinking MSS Enterprise, B52-nukes, etc).
With almost three times the population of Iraq, Iran would have been a far more difficult, if not impossible target for US occupation. The failure in Iraq due to US inability to provide adequate occupation troops to totally subdue the Iraq population (400,000) was forecast by senior US military officers who were then retired and/or ignored. The lie of Iraqis welcoming US occupation soon became apparent to the US public as did the waste of US resources in a futile war that US leadership erroneously stated would be paid for by Iraqi oil.

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Hitler had the same strategy, but he was much better organized as Bush. Some documents say that many German Nazies are/were working in CIA. This will explain why the documents and strategies of the Bush Administration (actually neocon Hawks) are completely similar. Hitlers PNAC and Bush's PNAC are 1:1. Also the speeches of Bush have many similarities with Goebbels and Hitler - so they have studied well the Nazi methodology. And WW3 will be the ultimate goal of the neo-nazies as well.
PNAC's Blitzkrieg lost momentum due to current US administration's misuse of a military unsuitable for any large-scale engagement outside of conventional warfare. And by that action lost public support. Administration's faulty overriding of military recommendations (not enough troops) became factual from the early days of Iraq armed resistance to US occupation and US implementation of a puppet Iraq government.

Hitler didn't lose momentum or begin overriding military recommendations until
Göring's loss at the Battle of Britain and the beginning of Barbarossa. The major similarities between current administration policy/PNAC and those of Hitler are military misuse and attempted resource gain by force resulting in economics dependent on military expansion by government capital injections; printing more money than the economic system can absorb.

Propaganda is propaganda and always initially successful in stimulating the patriotism gene of those in the masses unfortunate enough to have same who unerringly follow self-serving leadership. Any copy writer in any era can produce the same result by simply following Göring's opinion of war and extreme nationalism:

~Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.~

PNAC and current administration lost their momentum way too early in their domination goal and will go down in history as examples of political failure. Whether or not the US will be economically damaged by present military aggressiveness to the extent of the former USSR is still under determination as evidenced by continuation of disastrous foreign policy and ongoing USD problems.
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