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Old 10-18-2007
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House fails to override Bush veto

Short by 13 votes. Bush has said he is willing to compromise. Time to see if Congress is too. I doubt they will be able to find a middle ground.

House fails to override Bush veto of child insurance bill - CNN.com
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

Sure they will. All Bush has to do is surrender us to Islamfascists and Congress will get on board with whatever child-care program he wants.
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

Another defeat for Nancy Pelosi; time for her to start playing the sympathy card again because she's a woman.
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

democrats are LOOOOOSERrrrS.
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Old 10-19-2007
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

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democrats are LOOOOOSERrrrS.
Whats funny is Pelosi is all conciliatory now, when theyve spent a month saying the President hates children. Didnt Pelosi say something about having a more cooperative House, less partisan, more civil?
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

Why the big health care push for kids?

Because they're cuter then old people.

Also.........I don't think the Dems wanted a bunch of old folks walking around the house floor seeing what they're wasting our tax money on.

Senior citizens need health care coverage more then kids with upper middle-class parents.

Every one of the kids they used as examples to push this were already covered under the old program.

What was the point of all of this?

They wanted to be able to say that " Bush Hates Children and wants to murder them....sob....sob........."

I hear he gets pleasure from blowing their heads off according to Rep. Stark (D) CA.
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

This is something I found in the American Thinker you might want to read:

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Congress needs an intervention

By Kyle-Anne Shiver
What in the name of heaven is going on in our Congress? As I sit down here in Georgia, every now and then taking a C-SPAN glimpse at the United States Congress in action, I have to remind myself that I’m indeed watching live, the procedures of the most prestigious law-making body in the history of civilization and not one of my grandmother’s renowned, fake hissy-fits. Or indeed one of my own.

American Thinker: Congress needs an intervention
This is an example of the type of Hissy-fit we're talking about:

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: Rep. Pete Stark’s nutroots-flavored rant; Update: Veto override vote fails; Update: Stark thanks dKos for its support
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

Congress has no incentive to compromise. 144 republicans will be answering questions about this vote when the election rolls around. Until we see how many of them lose their seats nobody will know who "won" this vote. The accusation that those 144 would rather spend that money on a war most people hate than on uninsured children is just the kind of sound bite politicians fear.
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto



Yeah! Demoncrats suck! Yeah!
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

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Congress has no incentive to compromise. 144 republicans will be answering questions about this vote when the election rolls around. Until we see how many of them lose their seats nobody will know who "won" this vote. The accusation that those 144 would rather spend that money on a war most people hate than on uninsured children is just the kind of sound bite politicians fear.
Were does it say in the bill of rights we have the right to free health care?

Nothing is free after all.

Guess who ends up paying for this, and all it is when you break it down.....is a bribe and a wedge-issue Democrats normally use against their opposition. Nobody knows who is covered, even the Dems don't know....and most of all nobody knows how much it will cost.

But in the long run right now we can't afford to pay for what the Dems want and the Repugs know it...........and I think that's why they drafted the bill in the first place.
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

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Congress has no incentive to compromise. 144 republicans will be answering questions about this vote when the election rolls around. Until we see how many of them lose their seats nobody will know who "won" this vote. The accusation that those 144 would rather spend that money on a war most people hate than on uninsured children is just the kind of sound bite politicians fear.
I highly doubt the SCHIP debate will be a centerpiece in the elections, when healthcare is not the top issue. Why do you think Congress has such a low rating (if you beleive polls)? If you further believe polls, you would see that people have responded to the Presidents side of the SCHIP debate, that needy children should be covered, which does not include familys making 200% of the poverty level.

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=29047

-plenty of problems with this poll, though. just fyi
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

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I highly doubt the SCHIP debate will be a centerpiece in the elections, when healthcare is not the top issue. Why do you think Congress has such a low rating (if you beleive polls)? If you further believe polls, you would see that people have responded to the Presidents side of the SCHIP debate, that needy children should be covered, which does not include familys making 200% of the poverty level.

Both Parties Have Strengths in "SCHIP" Debate

-plenty of problems with this poll, though. just fyi
Congress always has a low rating. But most individual congresspeople have higher ratings in their home district than the congress as a whole does nationwide. It's a case of "congress is lousy but my guy isn't so bad".

Obviously republicans will tell their side of the story. But there was only one purpose in calling this vote when the dem leadership knew it would fail. That purpose was to get those 144 on the record on this issue because democrats believe most people did not want this legislation vetoed. Dems also know that any time they can force a republican candidate to defend an action of w's they gain an advantage. You can count on dem candidates trying their best to associate their opponents closely with w's failed presidency and you will see many republicans distancing themselves from him and saying they supported this or that position not because they supported w but because of their own beliefs.

This is also a wedge issue in the republican party because many christian conservatives are not fiscal conservatives or fans of big business - especially insurance companies - whom democrats will claim are the real reason this veto was issued. Democratic candidates will do their best to emphasize the pro big business aspects of the GOP in states where christian conservatives make up a large part of the base. This is especially true now, when increasing numbers of dem candidates are anti abortion rights. It is certainly possible the dem leadership is wrong about where most people stand on this issue, although I don't believe they are. So like I said, we won't know until the election who really won this vote.
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

Quess what!!!

Harry Reid is trying to take credit for the auction.

Typical Liberal;

Things go wrong they start finger-pointing.

Thing go great and they want part of the credit for it.
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Re: House fails to override Bush veto

Maybe he can sell it to the media that without him the $4.2 million wouldn't have been possible.

I'm waiting for the Dems to match Rush's donation.
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