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Old 10-20-2007
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US nuclear weapons flown accross the country

Air Force officers relieved of duty over loose nukes - CNN.com
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A six-week probe into the mistaken flight of nuclear warheads across the country uncovered a "lackadaisical" attention to detail in day-to-day operations at the air bases involved in the incident, an Air Force official said Friday.

Air Force Col. Bruce Emig was stripped of his responsibilities, sources say.

The investigation found that "a limited number of airmen" at both locations failed to follow procedures, said Maj. Gen. Dick Newton, assistant deputy chief of staff for operations.

Four officers -- including three colonels -- have been relieved of duty in connection with the August 29 incident in which a B-52 bomber flew from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana.

The plane unknowingly carried a payload of nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.

"Nothing like this has ever occurred," Newton said.

"Our extensive, six-week investigation found that this was an isolated incident and that the weapons never left the custody of airmen -- were never unsecured -- but clearly this incident is unacceptable to the people of the United States and to the United States Air Force."

The probe also found there was "an erosion of adherence to weapons-handling standards at Minot Air Force Base and at Barksdale Air Force Base," Newton said.
There are two major questions in relation to this incident: the first of course is the contravention of the national security protocols; but the second is, what were nukes being shipped for anyway? Was the US preparing for a pre-emptive nuclear strike somewhere?
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Re: US nuclear weapons flown accross the country

There is an earlier discussion about this here:

Why B-52 nuke showcase in USA - WARNING?
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There is an earlier discussion about this here:

Why B-52 nuke showcase in USA - WARNING?
Yes, "Analyst", there are previous discussions of this where, on one hand, you "analyse" that the US is planning a "false flag" operation against its own citizens; on the other hand, your "analysis" is that the US is moving nukes to LA to prepare for a nuclear strike against Iran. When asked which is it, you conveniently ignore the question. So, "Analyst", which one of your "analyses" is the correct one for a "high scientist"?

Oh, let's not forget that those involved have been assasinated, according to your "analysis". If so, how is it that reprimands and forced retirements are occurring for dead folks?
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There are two major questions in relation to this incident: the first of course is the contravention of the national security protocols; but the second is, what were nukes being shipped for anyway? Was the US preparing for a pre-emptive nuclear strike somewhere?
The warheads were not supposed to be transported - that was the error.

The missile airframes were being transported for destruction, as that particular type is being phased out of service.

Some moron will be along shortly to tell you about some sinister plot behind this, I am sure.

But the truth is this was simply a major error.

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Re: US nuclear weapons flown accross the country

If I were Iran and North Korea, I'd be concerned about this. I mean...apparently we have so damned many nuclear warheads that we can't even keep up with them all. They are just all over the damned place.

Might be time to use a few.
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The warheads were not supposed to be transported - that was the error.

The missile airframes were being transported for destruction, as that particular type is being phased out of service.

Some moron will be along shortly to tell you about some sinister plot behind this, I am sure.

But the truth is this was simply a major error.

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I guess the conspiracy to fly two airliners into the WTC and then drop the buildings by way of controlled demo just wasn't enough!!
I'm always amazed by the ability of the current admin to pull off this massive conspiracy, yet not having the ability to plant WMD's in Iraq!!
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I guess the conspiracy to fly two airliners into the WTC and then drop the buildings by way of controlled demo just wasn't enough!!
I'm always amazed by the ability of the current admin to pull off this massive conspiracy, yet not having the ability to plant WMD's in Iraq!!
Nifty - another conspiracy fan. You and Analyst should get along great.



Fair warning, though - your "controlled demo" theory wont be popular with the "directed energy" contingent, nor with the "mini nuke" folks. And those "mini nuke" fans can get very testy.

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Nifty - another conspiracy fan. You and Analyst should get along great.



Fair warning, though - your "controlled demo" theory wont be popular with the "directed energy" contingent, nor with the "mini nuke" folks. And those "mini nuke" fans can get very testy.

Hmm. Not sure how you put me with CD conspiracy fans. Didn't the give it away?

I'll be more blunt...For those that do subscribe to a CD theory (of which I do not) the goverment downing of the WTC was not enough. Now the goverment wants to go nuclear.

Better?
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My apologies.



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No problem. It's sometimes hard to tell sarcasm without the cue's from facial expression.
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Re: US nuclear weapons flown accross the country

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The warheads were not supposed to be transported - that was the error.

The missile airframes were being transported for destruction, as that particular type is being phased out of service.

Some moron will be along shortly to tell you about some sinister plot behind this, I am sure.

But the truth is this was simply a major error.

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Cool, thanks. I'm pleased to hear that they were being flown for disposal.
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I guess the conspiracy to fly two airliners into the WTC and then drop the buildings by way of controlled demo just wasn't enough!!
I'm always amazed by the ability of the current admin to pull off this massive conspiracy, yet not having the ability to plant WMD's in Iraq!!
Oh no - not another one....a conspiracy theory plus tasteless and crude sarcasm! What a combination......*sigh*
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Re: US nuclear weapons flown accross the country

I knew heads would roll over this one. Sounds like a major blunder on a few levels. Thankfully nothing happened.

Except the nuclear radiation emitting from the dirty bomb on board quickly turned into chemical vapor trails to poison the ground water with flouride. This compounded with secret x-ray capable spy cameras mounted in the nose of the B-52 capable of spying on paranoid people down the entire Missippi drainage.
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Cool, thanks. I'm pleased to hear that they were being flown for disposal.
Sorry - this is just a completely crazy and wrong idea.

The plane was carrying six (6) Advanced Cruise Missiles from Minot Air Force Base, N.D, to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., on Aug. 30. They carry W-80 warheads of up to 150 kilotons, ten times the destructive force of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

1) The modern ACMs are not decomissioned in USA ... definitely not in Barksdale, which is a base serving military transportation to Middle East. The army representatives did not speak about decomissioning the nukes - not an error - but a missmanagement.

2) In US Army there is a tight secrecy policy ... nothing happening inside can be told to outsiders. In this case there was a leak by purpose from higher ranking officers. This indicates that there is anti-Bush people inside the army. Quote: ...three officers who asked not to be identified because they were not authorized to discuss the incident.

3) There are a big number of procedures controlling the location and transportation of nukes in US Army ... it is completely impossible that this could have happened by mistake. This is as impossible as a hijacked airplane flying in New York one hour without being intercepted.

B-52 carried nuclear armed cruise missiles by mistake: US

Nuclear warheads mistakenly flown on B-52 | The Unofficial WRH Messageboard

Dick Cheney & Vigilant Shield: Will a Missing Nuke from the B-52 Incident be used in a Simulated Terrorist Attack?
This raises the disturbing possibility that not only was the B-52 ordered to participate in a covert mission to attack Iran outside the regular chain of military command, but that one of its nuclear weapons was secretly siphoned off for another covert mission. If Dick Cheney did give the order for the nuclear weapons to be loaded on to the B-52, it is highly likely that he is aware of the location and potential use of the missing nuclear missile. A number of serious questions therefore need to be asked about the appropriateness of Cheney being in charge of TOPOFF 4 and Vigilant Shield. This is even more urgent if there is a missing nuclear warhead that was taken from the B-52 for a yet undisclosed mission. Could this mission be related to the TOPOFF and Vigilant Shield exercises?
As long as the role of Dick Cheney in the B-52 incident is not investigated and the missing nuclear weapon is not located, Cheney should be removed from any position of authority in coordinating civil and military responses to any simulated terrorist attack. Such exercises provide him the opportunity and authority to secretly approve the covert use of a nuclear device that can be used to trigger a declaration of a “Catastrophic Emergency.” U.S. National Security is not served by Dick Cheney having a prominent role in leading TOPOFF 4, Vigilant Shield and any future simulated terrorist attacks involving weapons of mass destruction.
Dick Cheney & Vigilant Shield: Will a Missing Nuke from the B-52 Incident be used in a Simulated Terrorist Attack? | Oregon Truth Alliance


Here are more reports on B52 incident:
B-52 Nuclear Weapons Incident | Oregon Truth Alliance

* Air Force report on "Bent Spear" will scapegoat junior personnel and prolong cover-up
* Dick Cheney & Vigilant Shield: Will a Missing Nuke from the B-52 Incident be used in a Simulated Terrorist Attack?
* Navy veteran questions why six nuclear missiles were flown on combat aircraft to staging area for Middle East
* Nukes Over America: All a Stupid Mistake. Sure It Was
* Procedural Safeguards Preventing "Mistake" for which 70 Airmen are being Disciplined
* Staging Nukes for Iran?
* The Official (Cover) Story? WaPo on "Missteps in the Bunker"
* Three recent deaths of Air Force personnel: Are they stopping the whistleblowers?
* U.S. Nuclear Weapons Being “Guarded” by Israel
* Was a Covert Attempt to Bomb Iran with Nuclear Weapons foiled by a Military Leak?
* B-52 Bomber Incident & Insider Trading
* This was No Accident - Nuclear Weapons are Different
* US, NATO and Israel Deploy Nukes directed against Iran
* B-52 Nukes Headed for Iran, Not For Decommissioning: Airforce Refused
* Deadly Missiles: Not as sexy as Britney
* Former B-52 fleet commander leading probe of nuclear missile incident
* Is USAF Stand Down To Find A Missing Nuke?
* Missteps In The Bunker: Damage Control?
* Langley planes to be grounded Sept. 14
* Command Override: How Chinese Military Hackers Took Over a Nuclear Armed B-52
* Airforce Personnel Comment on Flying Nukes
* B-52 carrying nukes mistakenly overflies U.S.


This was a very serious event ... and very scary... of course this is a major crime as well - where are the inteligent people of USA???

Other analysts have made several theories about that - according to one, the idea was to transport them to Israel. Israel has requested "bunker nukes" from USA as it wants to bomb Iranian Nuclear laboratory.

My task is not to say what is my final explanation ... I am collecting information and reporting what I have seen.


By the way, these are not the first nukes missing - read this:
Alexander Cockburn: Nuclear Warheads Lost from a B-52 Now in Iran?
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Oregon Truth Alliance...?

Got anything from Konspiracy Weekly, or perhaps one of Kathaksung's ramblings to round out the field? You know, for balance?
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