Originally Posted by WarOnIgnorance

Your source is worldatlas.com, which you should have mentioned. Plagiarism is ugh.

It's only American sources that would include the Central Asian countries such as Afghanistan in the Middle East. It's a local, politically motivated, inclusion. It's not recognized outside of the US. Orwellian Newspeak doesn't sit well in the global community.

Originally Posted by baaz

Sorry I didnt mention that it was world atlas, actually I thought it was obvious In my next post I mentioned I was trying to copy and paste the map. I thought it was self explanatory. As far as it not being recognized outside of the US, I asked my Iraqi co worker today if Afghanistan was in the Middle East. He of course said...YES....

Originally Posted by WarOnIgnorance

Ooooooooooooooooooooh.
Your co-worker said so ! Him ! The Great Definer of the Regions in the World !

I take it all back then.

Originally Posted by Pogo

Well, if nothing else, we can dispense with this business about the "you're too stupid to know so I'm not going to tell you" tactic or is it the 'I think I'll be so obscure so that no one knows what I am asking and I risk nothing' tactic?"


Has it occurred to you that these sorts of incidents are indicative of tribalism rather than Islam?

Also, the US has a tendency to fund the most virulently violent in these societies, i.e. the mujahadeen in Afghanistan, which is completely antithetical to bringing them out of the dark ages. It's sad to say but Afghanistan was better off under the pro-Soviet regimes of the 70's than what we had to offer them. All we cared about was weakening the Soviets, and once that was accomplished, we turned our backs on them. With respect to Saudi Arabia and the debauched Saudi royals, all we care about is the oil.

So you see, America really isn't in a position from which to render moral judgements from on high. Perhaps if we get our act together and pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, morally speaking, we will someday be a positive voice for change.

Originally Posted by Si modo

Dad charged in daughter's murder

Sixteen year-old Aqsa Parvez was strangled to death by her father, Muhammed (assisted by her brother, Waqas) in Ontario. She had the audacity to not want to wear the hijab. Here is this young victim, killed by her own family:



Some press outlets in Canada have called this a “domestic dispute”. Although somewhat accurate, it diminishes the nature of the crime, IMO.

FOXNews.com - Slain Teen Girls' Brother Begs for Suspect Father to Turn Himself In - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

Amina Yaser Said, 18, and her younger sister, Sarah Yaser Said, 16, were murdered by their father in Texas because they wore western clothes. Here are the victims of that crime:



Here is a picture of that small, small man who murdered his two daughters:



How's that "honor" working our for you, Yaser Abdel?

At least the brother of these two girls is pleading for his father to turn himself in, so that is one male family member who is not a complete POS.

And, here is what the National Organization of Women has to say about these crimes:


(nothing) Why is this political organization silent about this? Are conservative women who care about the feminist movement to be ignored and have no representation from this powerful organization? It sure seems that way to me, or NOW’s agenda is not really what they claim it is? “Cultural tolerance” may be more important to NOW.

Originally Posted by Hank

Great reply.
Makes one wonder why he came there in the first place, he’s supposed to kill us also.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

He is?

How do you know this?

Originally Posted by Hank

The same way most know that he would lay and wait to kill his children. Unbiased information.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

If "most" knew, why didn't they do something to prevent it?

Originally Posted by Hank

As with any crime you have to wait until it is committed.
People tend to profile intellect after there own. With political correctness directing people to think a certain way and a people living among them that have a 3-4 thousand year old discipline, you’ll miss the nice doctor with a 20 year practice in your neighborhood placing propane in his car and crashing it into an airport shouting Allah..