Top Clinton advisor arrested on aggrevated DUI charges - Page 3 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

Alex · #31 (**permalink**) 01-12-2008

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Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere

Not really. Granted, more young people tend to get DUI arrests but there is also a bias, intended or not, in how arrests happen. Let me offer some nonexclusive examples IMO.

Men get far more DUIs than women. Far more. It's not that many women don't drive drunk. They do, especially younger ones like younger men. But, the big difference is--men don't have tits and ass. What is a guy supposed to do to wow an officer: "Hey bud, wanna see some sack *winky winky*????"

The majority of cops are men, and women get far more breaks on traffic matters from men, including DUI, especially if they are hot and have the bods and/or the charms. The majority of women cops think with their right head rather than their wrong head with guys.

Cops also don't tend to patrol spots with older people, especially richer people. In the summers, I stay most weekends at my beachhouse next to a yacht club. Most people coming out of there at night are absolutely shitfaced. Yet, the cops don't patrol my street. Why? They are the town's money and well connected. I even had a car hit by a dead drunk club member, but the cop cut him a break because of who he was. But, down at the young people's nightclub and bars in town, that is where the cops prowl for DUIs and everything else. Older people, if not some dreg, also tend to get more respect and breaks than younger people in matter behind the wheel.

Younger people also tend to get profiled more, especially at night, for DUI stops. The older guy in the 'dad's car' who is likely popped from Happy Hour or some other meeting is usually going home earlier in the evening, and the profile doesn't trigger anywhere near as much given the driver, the car and the time.

OSB, I'm confident that there are plenty of cops 'worldwide' that get the occasional 'hummer' from the "hot chick" in exchange for turning a blind eye to some type of transgression. But Sydney Blumenthal is no "hot chick"! He's a bloated, 60 year old drunkard with a lead foot, who just so happens to be a top advisor (actually a rabid attack dog) to the Clinton's. It's too bad Blumenthal didn't get a gay cop, maybe he could have blown his way out of it? Then he'd be known as the male Lewinsky? Now, THAT would be some karmic retribution!

PS- He's a mean spirited SOB, I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

iamwhatiseem · #32 (**permalink**) 01-12-2008

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It is indeed absurd to argue that drinking plays no role in an accident involving an intoxicated driver.

Yeah, sorta like age has nothing to do with child molestation...right Slon?

Slon · #33 (**permalink**) 01-12-2008

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As usual Slon your arguments are nonsensical to the nth degree.

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uhm, are you trying to break a record or something? I mean seriously slon, 5 years olds can consent to sex and driving while intoxicated isn't a big deal, its “bullshit”, because they haven’t struck someone...?

So what DOES pass the sniff test regards a committed crime in your opinion?

So if someone has been driving drunk and does not crash, he gets stopped and more or less has about a year of his life ruined. Who, besides the drunk driver, is harmed?

Likewise, are you going to ban things that can cause possible distractions in cars? Radios? Eating? Incompetence?

O'Sullivan Bere · #34 (**permalink**) 01-12-2008

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OSB, I'm confident that there are plenty of cops 'worldwide' that get the occasional 'hummer' from the "hot chick" in exchange for turning a blind eye to some type of transgression. But Sydney Blumenthal is no "hot chick"! He's a bloated, 60 year old drunkard with a lead foot, who just so happens to be a top advisor (a rabid attack dog) to the Clinton's. It's too bad Blumenthal didn't get a gay cop, maybe he could have blown his way out of it? Then he'd be known as the male Lewinsky? Now, THAT would be some karmic retribution!

PS- He's a mean spirited SOB, I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

Maybe the cop was a hardcore Republican too who was praising heaven that he caught this fish, all the more reason why he was foolish to do what he did.

I'm sure Samantha the cop would have loved to have pulled over a drunk Karl Rove so they all have to be wary.

I don't know anything about him, actually. If he is a campaign hired gun, I'm sure he knows the ropes of fighting dirty. All worth their salt are.

Funny you mentioned gving a hummer for getting a break. I was thinking most women just use their charm and maybe give the old cleavage shot with a low button to get their breaks. But . . . .

ABC News: Cop Suspended After Porn Star's 'Favor'

Meet Barbie Cummings

Alex · #35 (**permalink**) 01-12-2008

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Maybe the cop was a hardcore Republican too who was praising heaven that he got caught this fish, all the more reason why he was foolish to do what he did.

I'm sure Samantha the cop would have loved to have pulled over a drunk Karl Rove so they all have to be wary.

I don't know anything about him, actually. If he is a campaign hired gun, I'm sure he is knows the ropes of fighting dirty. Anyone worth their salt are.

FWIW, He was the hired hand that the Clinton's used to sully and tarnish the reputations of the myriad women (Monica Lewinsky included) that accused Bill of sexual misconduct over the years.

PS - gotta love that name - Barbi CUMmings...

Imperator · #36 (**permalink**) 01-13-2008

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So if someone has been driving drunk and does not crash, he gets stopped and more or less has about a year of his life ruined. Who, besides the drunk driver, is harmed?

Likewise, are you going to ban things that can cause possible distractions in cars? Radios? Eating? Incompetence?

so now we are equating driving under the influence of alcohol with playing a radio loud or not being a very good driver?

Are you under the influence?

as I asked- what constitutes a crime where in someone actually is punished with jail time etc....so far we have knocked out child molestation/rape, and dui.....what else?

Traveler · #37 (**permalink**) 01-13-2008

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Maybe the cop was a hardcore Republican too who was praising heaven that he caught this fish, all the more reason why he was foolish to do what he did.

I'm sure Samantha the cop would have loved to have pulled over a drunk Karl Rove so they all have to be wary.

I don't know anything about him, actually. If he is a campaign hired gun, I'm sure he knows the ropes of fighting dirty. All worth their salt are.

(Sets of Emphasis mine).

Not half as extatic as those Defense Attorney's who help drivers under the influence beat charges in court though i'll bet.

Ka-chiiiiiinnnngggg!!!!

O'Sullivan Bere · #38 (**permalink**) 01-13-2008

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(Sets of Emphasis mine).

Not half as extatic as those Defense Attorney's who help drivers under the influence beat charges in courth though i'll bet.

Ka-chiiiiiinnnngggg!!!!

Funny you mentioned that. I read the partially showing title on the main screen expecting something more politically alarming and when I saw the offence, I was like "Oh, DUI . . . hmmm . . . being a big vehicle code guy, maybe I should send him my business card."

Traveler · #39 (**permalink**) 01-13-2008

Yeah though isn't that solicitation?

Just remember to be the one to drive to the courthouse! If you can, try and charge his left arm and right leg for your fees, he'll look more comical that way.

O'Sullivan Bere · #40 (**permalink**) 01-13-2008

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Yeah though isn't that solicitation?

Just remember to be the one to drive to the courthouse! If you can, try and charge his left arm and right leg for your fees, he'll look more comical that way.

You can solicit business like that. Lawyers are supposed to be close cousins to hookers anyway.

And you can bet he'll pay a big retainer fee if he goes with the real pros in the field. It's a big marketplace given how common DUI is, and unfortunately many attorneys take such cases thinking they are easy pay cases without really knowing the ropes of it as they should and many clients think there isn't anything that can be done and go for the cheapest attorneys. The wise know it isn't a matter of retaining someone under 'cheaper is better' because that is often 'penny wise and pound foolish' and 'you get what you pay for.' The pros know the ins and outs to find ways out if they exist or at least how to minimise the damages. The stakes are big in such cases (loss of driving privileges, prison and expensive classes and treatments, car insurance rates going through the roof, ignition interlock installations, etc--and the stakes go even way up more if you have a Commercial Driver's Licence). It's true what they say: "DUI--you can't afford it."

Traveler · #41 (**permalink**) 01-13-2008

Yeah i mean i know some states that no matter what you get manditory jail time like OH you'll get 30 days with 27 suspended, you'll have to spend a minimum 3 in jail from now (its been on the books for a year or so) and also you have to have an attorney, you can't represent yourself as the judge forces you to (or can force you) to get legal representation. That does cost a fortune. As for being close cousins to hookers...i'm not even go there!

Slon · #42 (**permalink**) 01-13-2008

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so now we are equating driving under the influence of alcohol with playing a radio loud or not being a very good driver?

Things that increase the chance of a collision is your reason for opposing drunk driving, correct?

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Are you under the influence?

as I asked- what constitutes a crime where in someone actually is punished with jail time etc....so far we have knocked out child molestation/rape, and dui.....what else?

What do rape and child molestation have to do with this topic? I'm not sure I'm understanding your question.

SamskyLLP · #43 (**permalink**) 01-13-2008

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IMO DUI laws are bullshit anyway. People get screwed a lot of times when they have not even harmed anyone. It's one thing to prosecute people who kill others with their cars, but just because you are driving drunk does not mean you will. Similarly, driving sober doesn't guarantee anything, either.

This is the single most rediculous thing I have ever read. You should be ashamed of yourself...

Slon · #44 (**permalink**) 01-14-2008

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This is the single most rediculous thing I have ever read. You should be ashamed of yourself...

Why? Because I don't subscribe to the "All Drunk Drivers Kill People!" magazine?

Honestly, the only supporting evidence I've seen from the pro-DUI-laws group is a tiny amount of serious accidents where almost without fail the drunk driver is drunk to a near-comatose condition and that being impaired decreases reaction speed. In reality, current laws pretty much outlaw having even just a bit of alcohol in your blood and we have no laws (at least no laws as major as DUI laws) against other distractions (eating in the car, doing your make-up, changing your pants, smoking, talking to passengers, watching TV, etc...). Some laws even go from stupid to Theater of the Absurd where they actually ruin people's lives for starting their car engine to warm themselves up while having no intention of driving!

People need to stop listening to MADD and other one-sided propaganda bullshit and make up their own minds in a rational and informed manner.

SamskyLLP · #45 (**permalink**) 01-14-2008

Here is the problem. No drunk driver gets in their car with the intention of killing someone. Drunk drivers pose a greater threat to the safety of others than those with their judgment intact. I can guess by your callus that you have never been lost someone due to a drunk driver. My Father chose to drive drunk and killed himself and my Mother. You need to consider that driving drunk puts everyone on the road at greater risk of injury or death. I don't understand how you cannot see how the two correlate...

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