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Old 01-14-2008
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Re: Top Clinton advisor arrested on aggrevated DUI charges

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It was in form of a question ???????? Maybe/perhaps.

I mean, you said more thought please.
In other words, it wasn't a question, but you decided to take a shit on this thread, anyway.
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Re: Top Clinton advisor arrested on aggrevated DUI charges

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Well, it's not like the adviser is Hillary's slave or anything. Just because he does something illegal doesn't mean Hillary is all of a sudden a poor choice for a candidate. Still, I guess the assholes who vote based on what this guy did probably don't care about policy anyway. And since Hillary is retarded when it comes to policies, I guess it all balances out.
The role of a "senior political advisor" is to make intelligent decisions to help their candidates campaign. This requires a high degree of trust by the candidiate.

The advisor's actions, DUI and driving 40 mph above the speed limit, does not demonstrate responsible execution of his job, which is to minimize negative press, not create it. Obviously, just from this thread, the issue of DUI and the law is controversial.

I do not believe there will be any significant harm to Hillary's campaing. If the trust is gone, however, the candidate has the right to remove an advisor. That is reality in politics and the advisor should, and probably does realize it.
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Re: Top Clinton advisor arrested on aggrevated DUI charges

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Things that increase the chance of a collision is your reason for opposing drunk driving, correct?

What do rape and child molestation have to do with this topic? I'm not sure I'm understanding your question.
as I asked- what constitutes a crime where in someone actually is punished with jail time etc.?
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as I asked- what constitutes a crime where in someone actually is punished with jail time etc.?
Uh, what? Well, one thing for which you may get jailed is dealing drugs. Punishment depends on the state, drug and quantity.

Are you seriously asking what actions result in prison-term punishments?
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The role of a "senior political advisor" is to make intelligent decisions to help their candidates campaign. This requires a high degree of trust by the candidiate.

The advisor's actions, DUI and driving 40 mph above the speed limit, does not demonstrate responsible execution of his job, which is to minimize negative press, not create it. Obviously, just from this thread, the issue of DUI and the law is controversial.

I do not believe there will be any significant harm to Hillary's campaing. If the trust is gone, however, the candidate has the right to remove an advisor. That is reality in politics and the advisor should, and probably does realize it.
Hillary can do whatever she wants, but I am rational enough to realize that this behavior by one of her advisers does not improve or harm her position in terms of whom to elect in my eyes. For the record, I wouldn't vote for her anyway.
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Hillary can do whatever she wants, but I am rational enough to realize that this behavior by one of her advisers does not improve or harm her position in terms of whom to elect in my eyes. For the record, I wouldn't vote for her anyway.
Slon, I agree with your damage assesment for Hillary.

BTW, Hillary is not my choice for candidate either
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Slon, I agree with your damage assesment for Hillary.

BTW, Hillary is not my choice for candidate either
I've only seen 3 individuals verbalize their support of Hillary online.
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Uh, what? Well, one thing for which you may get jailed is dealing drugs. Punishment depends on the state, drug and quantity.

Are you seriously asking what actions result in prison-term punishments?
yes in your opinion...
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yes in your opinion...
Whether or not something constitutes a crime where you get jail-time is not an "opinion," it is a "fact." If you want to know what I THINK SHOULD constitute a crime worthy of jail-time, that is what you should ask, as that would be the opinion.
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Whether or not something constitutes a crime where you get jail-time is not an "opinion," it is a "fact." If you want to know what I THINK SHOULD constitute a crime worthy of jail-time, that is what you should ask, as that would be the opinion.
ookkkkkkkaaaaayyyyyyyyy what in your opinion?
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ookkkkkkkaaaaayyyyyyyyy what in your opinion?
What does that have to do with the thread?
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Re: Top Clinton advisor arrested on aggrevated DUI charges

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If you want to know what I THINK SHOULD constitute a crime worthy of jail-time, that is what you should ask, as that would be the opinion.
I have asked as requested. Please don't backtrack.
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I have asked as requested. Please don't backtrack.
I told you how to accurately articulate your request in English, not that I would answer it if it is off-topic, which it appears to be.
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I told you how to accurately articulate your request in English, not that I would answer it if it is off-topic, which it appears to be.
uh huh........the off topic was a comment posted after I asked and you asked me to ask in a certain fashion.....

" that is what you should ask, as that would be the opinion"....

I don't think it is off topic at all...the question goes to your objection that dui absent injury etc. is punishable by jail time etc. I am attempting to discover the parameters of what your opinion is on what someone should receive jail time for.
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uh huh........the off topic was a comment posted after I asked and you asked me to ask in a certain fashion.....
I told you how to articulate it accurately in English. That is all.
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" that is what you should ask, as that would be the opinion"....
Right, that is how you should formulate such a question if you want to know X.
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I don't think it is off topic at all...the question goes to your objection that dui absent injury etc. is punishable by jail time etc. I am attempting to discover the parameters of what your opinion is on what someone should receive jail time for.
Okay. Intentionally killing someone for no reason. That would be one thing deserving jail-time and/or greater.
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