Bin Laden's son to father: Change your ways - CNN.com

Whats do yo think of the fact that Omar, who left Al Qaeda in 2000 with the blessing of his father is advocating a peaceful resolution to the conflict. I think there is an opportunity here and the west should explore it further.

hey good stuff…so, he wants to end violence? okayyyyy invite dad to a bar a que, and invite me too...there will be one very short sharp blip of “violence”..then we can move on…

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How would it work? As I see it, Bin Laden would have to disband his organization, renounce violence and turn himself in. I view that as a probable non-starter anyway, but what would it take to get there? Negotiating with the man -- who has no legitimate position in world politics -- elevates him even higher.

He said his father should change his ways specifically by not targeting civilians. He believes in his fathers goals, presumably which is the extermination of all western influence in the muslim world. Omar did not ask his father to renounce violence. And he does not consider his father to be a terrorist. What exactly is the west supposed to seize on here?

Andrew

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He left with his fathers blessing? hmmm.....

I'm not sure what you expect the west to explore, Binny Boy is an asshole that needs to die slow and painfully. Just because his kid sheds a tear, doesn't mean squat IMO.

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Well since the U.S. doesn't target civilians, I guess we're one up from those loonies.

You haven't seen us dressed in drag and hide amongst the population.

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I guess the word hasn't reached all of Binny Boy's followers.

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Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

Depends how you define 'targeting' civilians. Does giving weapons to terrorists count as targeting civilians? Does destroying the infrastructure that keeps civilians alive count? Does the certainty of collateral damage with no casus belli count? US weapons have killed more civilians over the last few decades than other other single group could hope to achieve.

If the only option for resistance was guerrilla tactics i suspect american nationalists would use whatever means was necessary to achieve their goals. Or are you saying americans would just surrender if they couldn't find the proper clothing?

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Even if this son is for real (possibly), I have to imagine that his horse race for peace across North Africa will have trouble getting many sponsors. As a charity, I have to imagine it is on the list of charities who cannot get donations. As OBL's son and an ex-terroist trainee, those ties are too close to Al Qaeda no matter what this son says, to be considered a legitimate charity.

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I think he's full of shit.

Hey, if you want to be willfully ignorant of history and human nature and believe him, knock yourself the fuck out.

Personally, I REALLY don't understand the mindset of those who believe as you apparently do. I mean seriously, would you REALLY believe it if i pulled a 180 on all of my beliefs? No, of course not - unless you were the most gullible person ever born that is. Why do you believe THIS guy?

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I'm sure he does want to end the violence.

When I was a kid, I wanted to be a cowboy.

Sometimes you just don't get what you want...

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soooo if he wants to exterminate all western influence from the western world? Okay well maybe he should actually take that petition to the people of the countries he would like exterminate it from......looking at him and where he is at he’s using and doing he might want to take that to heart himself...

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No need with total air superiority. Anyone gets in the way, they're simply designated collateral damage.

Thinking about this, quite honestly, why should the west be the ones to explore this? He's the one who wants the violence to stop; let him broker a deal between Pops and the mean ol' USA.

The mere fact that he wants the violence to stop means complete dick. Fuck him. Al Qaeda was active while he was a member. He should, therefore, be captured, tried, convicted, and executed.

Fuck him.

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The only way there is ever going to be peace is if everybody kills everybody, or at least by the definition of "Peace".

Peace - The absence of war or other hostilities.

The human race by its very nature is conflicted with it self, and until that changes people are going to continue to be killed whether they have anything to do with anything or not. That's just the screwed up world we live in. Though I do find it interesting that he doesn't consider his father a terrorist, and yet he admits people are scared when he mentions his relations to Omar bin Laden.

History tells us he's not? How's that? So he's a hero for killing civilians? Lets examine the definition of terrorism.

Terrorism refers here to the public health consequences and the methods for prevention of the purposeful use of violence or threats of violence by groups or individuals in order to serve political or personal agendas.

Sounds like Osama bin Laden to me.

Either way, nobody should take Omar bin Laden seriously since he isn't offering a serious view of the world or his father.

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