The following article was published today at Israel news Israel e News from Israel. See folks, it doesn't matter if you're an American patriot like Ron Paul and the vast majority of Ron Paul supporters, or an outspoken anti-semite like me. The jewsmedia will still call you an anti-semite if you criticise American aid to Israel. And you'll be in violation of the 2004 Global Anti-Semitism Act, signed into law by George Bush, which requires the U.S. government to combat criticisms of jews inside every country on earth, including of course, the United States.


Why Zionists Should Not Support Ron Paul
Filed under World News, Jewish diaspora, Opinion Editorials, Jewish organisations worldwide, USA foreign policy, US elections - on Monday, January 28, 2008 - By: Greenfield, Daniel

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Ron Paul's supporters have been quite adept at repackaging their anti-semitic candidate's negatives as positives, have tried to spin Ron Paul's repeated criticisms of Israel and foreign aid to Israel as a positive. Some Zionists have fallen for that line and are considering supporting Ron Paul in order to end American intervention in Israel.

The idea of ending foreign aid and intervention in Israel's domestic politics may seem appealing at first glance but a serious look at what would happen gives us a whole other picture.
First of all it's highly debatable whether Ron Paul could even end foreign aid to Israel because it has too much bipartisan support and Ron Paul has no track record for winning legislative brush wars. The Presidential veto is not absolute power.

Secondly, Ron Paul's own statement betray the same pattern of thinking that has driven administration after administration to pressure Israel.

Ron Paul in the US House of Representatives, January 29, 2003
And above all, the Arab Muslims are tired of us.

Angry and frustrated by our persistent bullying and disgusted with having their own government bought and controlled by the United States, joining a radical Islamic movement was a natural and predictable consequence for Muslims.

We believe bin Laden when he takes credit for an attack on the West, and we believe him when he warns us of an impending attack. But we refuse to listen to his explanation of why he and his allies are at war with us.

Bin Laden’s claims are straightforward. The U.S. defiles Islam with military bases on holy land in Saudi Arabia, its initiation of war against Iraq, with 12 years of persistent bombing, and its dollars and weapons being used against the Palestinians as the Palestinian territory shrinks and Israel’s occupation expands. There will be no peace in the world for the next 50 years or longer if we refuse to believe why those who are attacking us do it.

Now it's not particularly ambiguous where Ron Paul's sympathies lie here, with the Muslim terrorists. This is par for the course on the far right, but it once again pins the blame on Israel. Now what happens under a Ron Paul presidency when there are no US troops in Iraq or Saudi Arabia and no foreign aid but the terrorism continues?

A man who has structured his entire foreign policy on giving in to terrorist blackmail, will hardly turn back from meeting the final terrorist demand. Israel's existence. After all in Ron Paul's worldview, America helped set up Israel which caused Islamic rage. There can only be one form of acceptable restitution, aiding in the destruction of Israel. It would be a small step to take for a man whose base already rages against Israel, whose closest political friends like Pat Buchanan view Israel as evil.

It would be a small step for the man whose own newsletters suggested Israel was behind the original World Trade Center bombings, called Israel "an aggressive national socialist state" and accused it of muzzling the American media, to contemplate. And even if he didn't, his administration is sure to be packed with those who would.

Thirdly, Ron Paul is backed by a whole constellation of bigots and neo-nazis who don't just want an end to foreign aid to Israel, they want a whole lot of dead Jews. Ron Paul's base of support comes from the far right and from the far left, among his supporters are people like Pat Buchanan, David Duke, Joseph Sobran, Paul Findley, Don Black, Theodore Beale and Bill White whose hatred for Jews verges on the psychotic.

Apologists for Ron Paul claim that he is beholden to no one, but a short look at Ron Paul's appearance on Meet the Press demonstrates that he's quite willing to play political games and pass the pork and the legislative kickbacks so long as he doesn't formally vote for them. Throw the Saudis and criminal white supremacist businessmen like Carl Story and Vincent Bertollini into the mix and things will get ugly fast. As Ron Paul's Meet the Press appearance demonstrates, his incorruptible image is a lie just like everything else about his campaign. The exposure of a criminal botnet operating out of the Ukraine and stolen credit card donations to Ron Paul as well as serious amounts of fraud by Ron Paul supporters not to mention donations from white supremacists like Don White should raise serious questions about where all those millions are really coming from and what they're buying.

But tell you what, let's put all of that aside for a minute. Let's imagine that Ron Paul becomes President and America becomes completely isolationist. No more foreign aid, no more interference. What happens next?

1. For starters, American companies begin boycotting Israel again in order to comply with the Arab boycott. With no legal restraint, the high tech boom in Israel is going to begin running into trouble as American companies are forced to choose between dealing with the Sheiks and dealing with Israel. Some will choose to maintain innovation and civilization, others will choose oil money. Since many companies comply with the boycott anyway and since despite the boycott, Israel's products do continue to be resold and relabeled through the Muslim world, this may not be a worst case scenario but it isn't something to shrug off either.

2. America's departure does not free Israel, it creates a power vacuum and there are at least two players ready to step into that vacuum, the EU and Russia. Russia already has a fleet in the area and a naval base in Syria. It has Gaydamak's party in Israel, nuclear reactors in Iran and a whole raft of new weapons to unload. The EU is funding multiple Israeli groups such as Peace Now while funding the Arab terrorists and pressuring Israel. Getting rid of American pressure will simply substitute EU pressure in its place. And unlike America, the EU genuinely hates Israel and wants to see it gone.

The only real thing keeping the EU in check is America. In 1948 America served as a buffer against the British backing of Egypt and Jordan, a backing so intense that England provided weapons and training and even flew planes over Israeli positions in the Negev to create an international incident. King Hussein of Jordan described the British envoy putting a paper in front of him, telling him it was a request for troops and telling him to sign it. British troops were already landing at Aqba when American pressure and a backlash from the British public over a military adventure put a halt to the plan. Meanwhile during the Six Day War, the USSR fielded a plan to land troops in Hafia and lead an Arab uprising. The plan was well underway before it was aborted.

Despite the absurd statements by some political candidates, American troops will never fight for Israel, but America as a world power helps balance Russian and EU interference in the Middle East. With the Quartet, we've seen Russia and the EU muscle their way in further. Without America, Israel would have to face numerous superpowers on its own.

If Israel had a strong secure government, it could survive the diplomatic standoff and show enough strength to avoid anything nastier. But then again if Israel had a strong secure government, American pressure would never be a problem in the first place. Sharon said "No" to the State Department and meant it. Olmert can't say "No", he can only say "Maybe" and his wife is a member of the EU funded Peace now. As bad as things are with Rice in the driver's seat, would you really like to see the EU calling the shots?

I am personally opposed to foreign aid for Israel. I am also opposed to Ron Paul, not because Ron Paul is bad for Israel, but because Ron Paul is bad for America and the world. His foreign and domestic policy would be catastrophic and that would impact everyone. The struggle against the Jihad is a global one and it needs the remaining free countries of the world working together.

An isolationist order would fall to the Jihad one by one, outnumbered and surrounded because in the end it only takes a single liberal politician a few years to dismantle everything that conservative politicians have done before, Rabin and Clinton are both excellent reminders of that. Israel or America as islands in the Caliphate would not survive for long as free nations, they would fall by violence or treachery or the decay of their morale in the face of a long siege.
And all that is secondary to the fact that Ron Paul cannot be President and will not be President.

He is not a serious candidate, he is a spoiler candidate meant to insure a Republican does not become President. The real consequence of the Ron Paul campaign is to be a spoiler candidate, to have Ron Paul run as a third party candidate and bring Hillary Clinton or Obama to power.
Supporting the Ron Paul campaign for whatever reason insures that you are counted among the ranks of 9/11 Deniers, Holocaust Deniers, Neo-Nazis, Conspiracy Theorists, Anti-Semites who are the real engine behind the Ron Paul grass roots effort and when you join with them, you become their useful idiot. And when Ron Paul is trounced, whatever happens next, the numbers of his supporters will be used to prove that there is widespread support for investigating 9/11 conspiracies, an anti-Israel foreign policy and the various radical agendas of the far left and the far right.

When you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas and the Ron Paul campaign has some big ugly bloodsuckers on it. They don't support Ron Paul because they "love freedom", they support him because they hate freedom. The biggest tragedy in the lives of men like Pat Buchanan, Joseph Sobran, Don White and David Duke is that they were born too late and in the wrong country to join the SS and they've been trying to compensate for it ever since.

The Ron Paul campaign harnesses every dirty trick operation that the Buchanan and Duke campaigns have used, every slimy tactic, for one last go at it. Some in Lehi once thought they could make a devil's bargain with the Nazis, but when you bargain with the devil, the devil always wins. The Ron Paul campaign is willing to co-opt Jews but its heart and its base remains in a very dark place.

This is such an arrogant piece of shit that accuses every patriotic American of being anti-something. No wonder they have the courage to talk to us like this after successive American government, Bush W. being the ultimate point of it, let these racists to suck our money and our blood to grow fat on a piece of land that they stole.

One day we will make a legislation that makes us inferior citizens of America to those red-hot racist Zionist traitors.

Well said, Sheriff. It's like Alex Linder said: "One rule for jews, another rule for everybody else."

Speaking of "these (jewish) racists who suck our money", click the link below and see just how much money they've sucked out of us.

The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion

PS: This forum's neo-cons, zionists, and other assorted traitors ain't gonna like what you said, though. So expect some insults and bitchings. Hang tough.

Looks like it was only Daniel Greenfield who did it.

If his conclusions are correct, does that mean anti-Semites should support Ron Paul? Who are you supporting, Brett?

Don't know if you're aware, but not every Israeli or Jew is a zionist, nor does all Israeli media censor itself against criticism. Here's a recent cover page from the largest newspaper Haaretz with headline "Bush to Olmert: End the Occupation":

http://jewschool.com/wp-content/uplo...agejan1108.jpg

The large ad calling for peace and negotiation in the lower right the Israeli jewish anti-occupation organization Peace Now.

Peace Now

Another: Gush Shalom - Israeli Peace Bloc

Just to give some perspective on "jewsmedia"

I'm supporting the only candidate not jewsmedia approved. Ron Paul. All gentiles oughta support him for that reason. Which one are you supporting, the koon, the bolshevik bitch, the neo-con, the Jew-Yorker, or the Judeo-Christian who worships the dead-kike-on-a-stick ??

The print is so small I can only make out the headline. But the occupation hasn't ended for 41 years. Should I hold my breath while expecting the kikes to follow Bush's advice ??

A few sly kikes doing damage control to fool gullible gentiles. Ain't gonna work this time, though. The blood of millions of muslims and Arabs at the hands of the jews must, and will be, avenged. And in spite of the bankrupted U.S. JOG's (Jewish Occupation Government) jew wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and JOG's temporary occupation of other Arab/Muslim countries.

All you illustrated was typical propaganda put out by the Masters of the Big Lie, the jews. Do yourself a favor and get a White man's perspective, for a change, by checking out The Official Website of Representative David Duke, PhD and/or Vanguard News Network. I mean surely you've figured out by now that jews control the media in the U.S. and Israel.

Well, you bring up an interesting point. I think a good example of this situation is: if blacks and women have additional (and unequal, compared to white men) legal rights, as they do now in this country (such as Affirmative Action), should male sexists and white racists support the candidate who is running for equality in the country as opposed to someone supporting the status quo or greater AA-style inequality? The answer would be yes. However, so should anyone who truly supports equality under the law.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

Well let's see Ron Paul and his supporters called Anti Semetic...i think idiotic would have been a better word.

But come one Brett, if your guy gets indicted on money laundering, fraud and FEC regulation violations and circumvention the real issue you're gonna have to address is which aryan gang to try and get him into in jail to avoid him getting raped like a bitch in prison. Think hard, i'm sure you can find a good safe place to keep him out of harm's way.

Why?

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

Good points. But too logical for self-hating, jewsmedia-programmed, wiggers. In their jew-controlled minds, what you just said is downright racist. How dare you suggest that White people should have equal rights. It jes ain't kosher, and Oprah wouldn't approve.

Besides, equality under the law, would put 90 percent of niggers in jail, and the other 10 percent back in the cotton patch.

Well, I'm not really doing anything to support anyone. I like McCain the most right now. I'm intrigued by Ron Paul, and I also like Barack Obama.

[quote=Fidei Defensor;1149381]Well, I'm not really doing anything to support anyone. I like McCain the most right now. I'm intrigued by Ron Paul, and I also like Barack Obama.[/QUOTE]

this confirms why i dont think mccaine is a conservative like the media espouses he is

Giulianni and Mccaine are not conseratives if someone can put Obama and mccaine in same category of likes

Oh i avoid the topic cause We can cut to the chase and just put in a 3 letter race word for the troll to sum it up.

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Hardcore Conservative !

I said Conservative not necessarly Republican or Democrat. Liberals are in both of those parties.

Thanks for posting. I was considering on not participating in this thread. I'm Jewish. Guess what else! I don't support the occupation! Get this, I support peace and reconciliation between the Israelis and Palestinians! I don't approve of the billions we give to Israel to continue their occupation (nor the millions and billions we give to other nations with human rights violations).

In fact, though I despise Ron Paul's economic policies, I would support him over every other Republican candidate (including the Republican in Democrat's clothing, Hillary Clinton) and quite possibly over John Edwards and Barak Obama on the Democratic side.

Despite some of the anti-semitism I see in this thread, please rest assured that not all Jews behave and think of like mind.

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So what?

Most Zionists I have debated will not even acknowledge that there is an occupation so you are off to a good start...

You do know that many Zionist Jews would label you a "self-hating" Jew?

In all fairness I realise that it would not be fair to lump Norman Finkelstein in with Abraham Foxman...