Typical of the right's mentality. Something shows some meager signs of success & they start jumping up & down waving their red white & blue pom poms howling "Mission Accomplished!!!"

I'll bet dollars against donuts this lull in violence doesn't last. Those "terr-rists" are a shrewd, crafty bunch. They know the current troop level isn't going to last forever & all they have to do is just lay low for awhile & wait us out.

Besides. this whole thing is likely just a desperate ploy by DUHbya to make things look a little better in an election year so maybe his idiotic foreign policy blunder won't completely drag the rest of the Republican party down the crapper along with his legacy.

You're right about that.

It most certainly is pointless.

Now that all the BUNK from the Bush apologists has been officially deBUNKed.

I remain unconvinced as well.

Isn't it interesting that you provide a link to a 3 1/2 year old document and that there is no proof whatsover that the so called Iraqi-documents they refer to ever existed?? Well and why should I trust online-"journalists" from a ruther shaby looking news-site????

Any more serious, current links???

Please take this in the manner it is intended. It is not meant to be offensive to you personally.

Those that have a political ax to grind against George Bush continue to pound away at the Saddam-Terrorist link. The implication is that the reason we went into Iraq is because the Bush Administration said there was a link. And somehow that was the only reason we attacked. This is a very lame attempt to rewrite history.

Going into Iraq is the single biggest decision of the Bush Administration and the liberals are determined to establish the notion that it was based on a manipulated intelligence. Watch this short video of Al Gore criticizing the Administration but in 1992 he says G.H.W. Bush ignored Saddam's terrorist ties.

YouTube - Al Gore on Bush's 9/11 lies

Actually, everyone agrees that there is no proof that Saddam had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks. But we also know he had well established links to various terrorist organizations. Here is wording that came out of the Congress to give Bush the authority to go into Iraq:

• Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;
  
• Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens;
  
• Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;
  
• Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;
  
  Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

The truth is that Bush decided to go into Iraq because Saddam refused to abide by the terms of the 1991 cease fire. Plus he ignored 17 UN resolutions to do so. He was a very destabilizing force in the Mideast. And if the UN was to hold any credibility at all, he had to be dealt with.

You can agree or disagree with Bush's decision. But you have to give him plenty of credit for having the courage to do something. Before, we deferred to Saddam or kicked the can down the road.

I think it's time to consider how many thousands of Kurds, Israelis, and Marsh Arabs would be dead if Saddam were still in power. Or how bad the world terrorism situation would be had he been allowed to continue his devious ways.

RJ

uhm, who has done so? Or are you just projecting?

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dream on dude...bush is; is a dumb, crazed, blood lusting cowboy, who is doing gods work, (just want to be sure some here feel at home with this post) and fooled congress into okaying "his" invasion, cause' " his daddy was therttened and we need dat der oll".......and that how its got to play...

Terms or appellations like; ill informed, misguided, poor judgement, non perceptive or lack of foresight etc. only apply to democratic exec. office holders....or congressman/senators in fact. So, there ya go.

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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Nope, as I said, its pointless to continue examining it. I have my opinion, others have theirs. Its moot. Iraq under Sadaam does not exist anymore. That threat has been eliminated.

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

I disagree, but youre entitled to your opinion.

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

The only link here is the Neocons and bush's failed administration.

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Thanks. Now I know that you are one who uses that fallacious rationale of generalizations. Thanks for letting us get to know you better...very informative.

(HINT: I, as will others, ignored the rest of your post due to your first line since it says a lot already. That's not too effective of a method to get one's point across. Of course, advice is worth what you pay for it, right?)

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Don't forget the neocons - creators of AQ and handshakers of SH.

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amen...

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

Hey Imp. theres two of these threads, how about merge them together, thanks

I wasn't aware that this was still much of an issue. I was under the impression that a Saddam-Osama link was on par with 9/11 conspiracy theories or young Earth creationism. It persists, but few take it seriously.

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in this case I think "Felattio-us" would be a more apt description....

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