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Old 03-10-2008
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No link between Saddam, al Qaida

Another reason for war with Iraq down the drain.



Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida - Yahoo! News

WASHINGTON — An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.
The new study of the Iraqi regime's archives found no documents indicating a "direct operational link" between Hussein's Iraq and al Qaida before the invasion
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Old 03-11-2008
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Re: No link between Saddam, al Qaida

this news is 5 years old, at least...
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Re: No link between Saddam, al Qaida

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this news is 5 years old, at least...
New article, though. I'm guessing it involves additional documents captured since the release of the previous report (which I think detailed something similar, but regarding 9/11). What will the neocons use as an excuse now? "He was a really mean man!"
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New article, though. I'm guessing it involves additional documents captured since the release of the previous report (which I think detailed something similar, but regarding 9/11). What will the neocons use as an excuse now? "He was a really mean man!"
Still, the hardest evidence on the Osama-Saddam connection was presented by Colin Powell on early 2003, during his infamous presentation in the security council.

Here it is, dear americans, the ulitmate proof for a strong connection between Al Quaeda and the former Iraqi gouvernment,
the reason why four million people lost their home and over a hundred thousand their lifes:



For those who are still thinking I am joking - I am NOT. But I can understand you, since in the beginning I thought Mr. Powell was joking, too.
It was quiete frightening when the world figured out he wasn't.
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No Link Between Saddam and al Qaida--Pentagon Study Says

Can we finally put this urban myth to bed, once and for all? We now have a definitive answer on whether or not there was a link between Saddam and al Qaida. Yet I'm sure the tinfoil hat conspiracy nuts will still keep on believing Saddam and bin Laden were buds.

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Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam and al Qaida

WASHINGTON — An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam's regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East, U.S. officials told McClatchy. However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime.

The new study of the Iraqi regime's archives found no documents indicating a "direct operational link" between Hussein's Iraq and al Qaida before the invasion, according to a U.S. official familiar with the report. ...

-McClatchy Newspapers
Looks like Saddam was like just about every other country in the region, supporting the Palestinians.
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Re: No Link Between Saddam and al Qaida--Pentagon Study Says

Perhaps we should wait until the actual report comes out on Wednesday before jumping to conclusions. Your link bases their conclusion (thus, yours, too) on an anonymous source. I don't give too much credibility to those kinds of sources. I'll wait until Wednesday and see, if you don't mind.

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He and others spoke to McClatchy on condition of anonymity because the study isn't due to be shared with Congress and released before Wednesday....
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Re: No Link Between Saddam and al Qaida--Pentagon Study Says

Admittedly, this may be premature, but it wouldn't be a surprise either. The article ends:

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... The new Pentagon study isn't the first to refute earlier administration contentions about Saddam and al Qaida.

A September 2006 report by the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Saddam was "distrustful of al Qaida and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al Qaida to provide material or operational support."

The Senate report, citing an FBI debriefing of a senior Iraqi spy, Faruq Hijazi, said that Saddam turned down a request for assistance by bin Laden which he made at a 1995 meeting in Sudan with an Iraqi operative.
McClatchy ain't the New York Times.
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Re: No Link Between Saddam and al Qaida--Pentagon Study Says

I'l still wait for Wednesday and see, if you don't mind.
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Re: No Link Between Saddam and al Qaida--Pentagon Study Says

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Can we finally put this urban myth to bed, once and for all? We now have a definitive answer on whether or not there was a link between Saddam and al Qaida. Yet I'm sure the tinfoil hat conspiracy nuts will still keep on believing Saddam and bin Laden were buds.



Looks like Saddam was like just about every other country in the region, supporting the Palestinians.

But since there was proof, as stated in your post, that he was supporting terrorism, maybe not Al Qaeda, he still was a serious threat.

This story is just old news being recycled, repackaged, and presented as something new.

Because no direct operational link has been established, which was testified before Congress years ago and revealed to the public, some people think this gives him clean hands. This couldn't be further from the truth.


What does direct operational link mean? Well the best way to describe it is providing weapons, training, or assistance. He however provided medical treatment for Al Qaeda members and money through third-parties. And let us not forget that he was planning on turning his weapons program into a terrorist brokerage selling WMDs to the highest bidder in hopes they would use them against western interests. Documents supporting this were found as well as videotapes showing him describing the plan. But since we stopped him before he could, we were the ones who were wrong. We had no right to do everything in our power to prevent more attacks like 9/11 I suppose.

Let us not forget that he was caught helping other terrorist entities. But because those terrorists aren't Al Qaeda Liberals will claim he was innocent thus the war was unjustified. This is just so much Bull Shit. Who gave them the right to decide that Al Qaeda is the only threat we are allowed to pursue in the War On Terror?

A threat is a threat no matter the name. Hamas, Hezbellah, Al Qaeda, Al Sadr's Army, whomever he helps, they are all a threat to peace and a threat to our interests and our homeland.
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Re: No Link Between Saddam and al Qaida--Pentagon Study Says

Adjusting to reality can be difficult. Don't go too fast. Just repeat thinks like, "The surge is working, Iraq is a success, and GB is a great man," if things get too difficult.
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Re: No Link Between Saddam and al Qaida--Pentagon Study Says

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. And let us not forget that he was planning on turning his weapons program into a terrorist brokerage selling WMDs to the highest bidder in hopes they would use them against western interests. [b]Documents supporting this were found as well as videotapes showing him describing the plan. .
Any link to support your claims???

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This is just so much Bull Shit. Who gave them the right to decide that Al Qaeda is the only threat we are allowed to pursue in the War On Terror?
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Who gave you the right to decide that its Americas job to transform/pervert the war on terror/al Qaeda??
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Adjusting to reality can be difficult. Don't go too fast. Just repeat thinks like, "The surge is working, Iraq is a success, and GB is a great man," if things get too difficult.
The surge isn't working? Wow. That's news to me.
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Still, the hardest evidence on the Osama-Saddam connection was presented by Colin Powell on early 2003, during his infamous presentation in the security council.

Here it is, dear americans, the ulitmate proof for a strong connection between Al Quaeda and the former Iraqi gouvernment,
the reason why four million people lost their home and over a hundred thousand their lifes:



For those who are still thinking I am joking - I am NOT. But I can understand you, since in the beginning I thought Mr. Powell was joking, too.
It was quiet frightening when the world figured out he wasn't.
It's like stepping out of the known knowns past the known unknown through the unknown unknowns and into the great unknown.
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Re: No link between Saddam, al Qaida

Nothing new here. There has never been any hard proof of a "direct working relationship" between Iraq and AQ. However, there is plenty of evidence of connections, mostly with the IIS working with AQ. I suggest reading "The Connection", then beleive what you want.

http://www.amazon.com/Connection-Col...5241304&sr=1-1
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Re: No Link Between Saddam and al Qaida--Pentagon Study Says

I remain unconvinced. There is plenty of evidence indicating some sort of connection between Iraq and AlQaida, for example a document from Sadaams office ordering the IIS to work with AQ in Somalia to attack our troops there. But beleieve what you want. It is pointless to continue arguing this.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialRe...20041004a.html
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