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Old 03-23-2008
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Iraq linked to terrorism

It has been stated over and over that America has found no link between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Many anti-war activists have tried and tried to extend this finding to mean that there was no link to terrorism or no threat to the United States. Here is a redacted report based on written documentation retrieved from Iraq after the US invasion.

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Hopefully this will put an end to the propaganda and set the record straight. I don't hold my breath however.

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Re: Iraq linked to terrorism

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It has been stated over and over that America has found no link between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Many anti-war activists have tried and tried to extend this finding to mean that there was no link to terrorism or no threat to the United States. Here is a redacted report based on written documentation retrieved from Iraq after the US invasion.

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Hopefully this will put an end to the propaganda and set the record straight. I don't hold my breath however.

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What is your point? The report text states it "found no smoking gun, no direct link between Iraq and Al Qaeda."
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This study found no "Smoking Gun" (i.e. direct relationship) between Saddam's Iraq and Al Qaida
The study seems to confirm that Bush, Cheney, Rice and Powell were lying
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The study seems to confirm that Bush, Cheney, Rice and Powell were lying
You'll never convince that 30% of Americans who support those white collar thugs of that. They'd prefer taking the country down with their egotistical drive to rationalize the folly of Iraq rather than admit they were used.
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I've been reading it and I am interested. So far, however, I'm finding nothing not previously discussed.

Richard, could you quote some of the items you are referring to in your opening post?
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You'll never convince that 30% of Americans who support those white collar thugs of that. They'd prefer taking the country down with their egotistical drive to rationalize the folly of Iraq rather than admit they were used.
There are two problems with your premise: 1) 9/11 terrorists are nor were the only terrorist organizations the US government was concerned about with Saddam. I have never supported the theory that 9/11 and saddam are linked, However, I do realize that Saddam was linked to terrorist Palestinian organizations in Egypt, Gaza strip, Syria, and Iran.

2nd folly is that even President Clinton wanted to invade Iraq which would have been the most opportune time. but wait, went went into a place called Yugoslavia that did not pose any significant threat to the US. You cannot fault Bush Jr, nor Bush Sr without blaming Clinton too. To exonerate Clinton while demonizing both Bush's shows the ultimate folly in your arguments.

So, here is the question for you: would you have been in favor of the Russian resolution that did away with the inspections altogether? Or would you continue favor the inspections until all the issues have been resolved? You might want to think very carefully before answering this question.
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There are two problems with your premise: 1) 9/11 terrorists are nor were the only terrorist organizations the US government was concerned about with Saddam. I have never supported the theory that 9/11 and saddam are linked, However, I do realize that Saddam was linked to terrorist Palestinian organizations in Egypt, Gaza strip, Syria, and Iran.
So were/are the Sauds and virtually every other ME country. What's your point regarding the US destruction of Iraq?

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2nd folly is that even President Clinton wanted to invade Iraq which would have been the most opportune time. but wait, went went into a place called Yugoslavia that did not pose any significant threat to the US. You cannot fault Bush Jr, nor Bush Sr without blaming Clinton too. To exonerate Clinton while demonizing both Bush's shows the ultimate folly in your arguments.
Last I heard Clinton did Yugoslavia through the UN. Bush Sr. did the same thing and even commented in his book that to invade/occupy Iraq would be a grave mistake. Neither of those presidents mired us in a fiasco costing a half-trillion in currently borrowed money with an expected price tag of $3T and destroyed a country.

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So, here is the question for you: would you have been in favor of the Russian resolution that did away with the inspections altogether? Or would you continue favor the inspections until all the issues have been resolved? You might want to think very carefully before answering this question.
That's a non-question as the inspections found no weapons or delivery systems capable of harming the US, the same results as post-invasion inspections by the US military. The premise of invading Iraq was sold by current administration on Iraq being a danger to the US. I guess we could speculate on why Lincoln condoned Grant's drinking, but as with your 'question' it doesn't seem associated to then or here and now for discussion purposes.
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Clinton went there to rescue the UNs inept UNPROFOR and natos prestige. I am glad he did BUT the point is; the deployment of troops for a peacekeeping mission in which there was no threat to U.S. lives, and no immediate national security interest at stake was unprecedented. There was no formal request I can find that the UN asked the US to send troops etc. to Yugo.

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Last I heard Clinton did Yugoslavia through the UN. Neither of those presidents mired us in a fiasco costing a half-trillion in currently borrowed money with an expected price tag of $3T and destroyed a country.

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Re: Iraq linked to terrorism

The title of the thread is true. Iraq is linked to terrorism, because one of the world's most prolific terrorist organizations--the US Armed Forces--is ultimately running Iraq.
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Well now , that was a fun topic. Aunt Sally (metaphorically speaking ) issued everybody with wooden balls then disappeared stage right. ( also metaphorically speaking ) Maybe April 1st has been moved to Easter, or Saddam resurrected to add some evidence to the trial he never got. 'Iraq linked to terrorism' ! In 2008 ! Cool.
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hindsight is always 20-20.
"Nobody could have foreseen that_______" is the hallmark of the Bush administration.

So even though Bush and Rice had read a report titled "Bin Laden determined to Attack in US" , Nobody could have foreseen September 11.

and While Bush was cutting taxes, Nobody could have foreseen record deficits.
and before the invasion of Iraq, Nobody could have foreseen that Iraq would become a bloody quagmire.
And Nobody could have foreseen that a hurricane would hit New Orleans and the levees would break.
Nobody could have foreseen that an unregulated mortgage market would lead to a financial meltdown..


Screw Obama, I think this guy Nobody should be president, after all, for the last 7 years, he's the only guy who's been right on the money.
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Re: Iraq linked to terrorism

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I've been reading it and I am interested. So far, however, I'm finding nothing not previously discussed.

Richard, could you quote some of the items you are referring to in your opening post?
I don't mean this in an insulting way. But, initially you say you find nothing that hasn't been previously discussed. Then you ask for quotes. If it's all been previously discussed, then why do you need me to quote it for you?

The liberal left has been trying to discredit the Bush Administration every since he went into office. Sometimes the criticism has been revolting:


Most of the time the criticism has been misleading. My point was that Saddam Hussein DID support terrorism both in Iraq and globally. That support was in direct violation of the cease fire agreement he signed in the first Gulf War.

The CIA reported in "Iraqi Support For Terrorism"
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Iraq continues to be a safehaven, transit point, or operational node for groups and individuals who direct violence against the United States . . .

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...:sr301.108.pdf
This latest analysis of 600,000 documents recovered from Iraq substantiates that premise.

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Hey, that's a really funny political cartoon. Who drew that ?
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Already a thread on this.
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Last I heard Clinton did Yugoslavia through the UN.
Then you heard wrong.
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