Obama grabs Superdelegate lead... - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

Sheriff · #1 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

Finally it happened. Obama has won against might Clinton machine and against the mainstream. He has more un-popular delegate support. What does that mean?

I believe it simply means the unofficial announcement of the Democratic nominee: You know who.

This is latest from Politico:

Obama grabs superdelegate lead - Mike Allen and Avi Zenilman - Politico.com

Now, what do you think Obama is better focus on? John McCain or his own particular agenda that, thus far, has changed the way politics is played in Washington DC?

Sheriff · #2 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

Barack is now within mathematical reach of the Democratic nomination by June 3rd with the latest wave of superdelegate endorsments -- even if he loses the remaining six primary contests.

That's big. Sen. Obama has picked up 26 endorsments in the past week and Hillary's last chance is to include Michigan and Florida into the race, the states which violated national party rules.

Now it is time for Sen. Clinton to exit the race gracefully and join the camp Obama to have a Democratic aministration after eight years.

MattLarson · #3 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

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Originally Posted by Sheriff

Barack is now within mathematical reach of the Democratic nomination by June 3rd with the latest wave of superdelegate endorsments -- even if he loses the remaining six primary contests.

That's big. Sen. Obama has picked up 26 endorsments in the past week and Hillary's last chance is to include Michigan and Florida into the race, the states which violated national party rules.

Now it is time for Sen. Clinton to exit the race gracefully and join the camp Obama to have a Democratic aministration after eight years.

No chance Hillary exits gracefully. She's going to fight this to the bitter end, and the consequences for the party and for Obama be damned.

Besides, if she starts turning up the pressure to have Florida and Michigan seated, Obama will be in the un-winnable position of arguing against counting the votes from those states.

So you can count on at least some portion of the Florida and Michigan delegates being seated.

Matt

Steve · #4 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

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Originally Posted by Sheriff

Now, what do you think Obama is better focus on? John McCain or his own particular agenda that, thus far, has changed the way politics is played in Washington DC?

He needs to start talking about his policies and his plans. I've been listening to the guy run his mouth for a while now and, frankly, I think he needs to start being specific is he expects people to vote for him.

Focusing on McCain? He's got enough drones on the internet doing that already...

Sheriff · #5 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

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Originally Posted by Steve

He needs to start talking about his policies and his plans. I've been listening to the guy run his mouth for a while now and, frankly, I think he needs to start being specific is he expects people to vote for him.

Focusing on McCain? He's got enough drones on the internet doing that already...

Drones are not enough... Just as the McCain hate spammers all over the internet are not never enough... That's why McCain himself had to speak about that so called Barack-Hamas claim.

Barack will be able to speak about his policies more broadly when he secures the nomination. I believe the fact that he still has to confront Clinton prevents him from completely involving himself in his policy plans in particular.

I am sure you will be given enough chance to hear his policies from him.

southrnfried · #6 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

Barrack H Obama has bigger problems at the moment than Mcain.

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But a new poll says 64 percent of Democrats nationwide, want her to stay in the race.

Even 42 percent of Obama's supporters in the ABC News/ Washington Post poll, said they don't want Clinton to throw in the towel.

Obama still leads Clinton by 12 points nationwide.

Separate polls released yesterday show Clinton beating Obama in West Virginia, 60 percent to 24 percent, and in Kentucky, 58 percent to 31 percent.

OBAMA AIMS FOR NOV. - New York Post

Many mainstream Dems don't think Obama can get any of the blue collar white vote. They want to see if Obama can win some of those states that will be hotly contested come fall. Just like Bill the longer Hillary stays in it the greater chance she has of stealing the nomination.

and when Obama does eventually capture the nomination he's going to be battling his credentials, or lack thereof. On one side you will have a united GOP on the other a splintered Democrat party. The Dem women have already made it clear if Hillary doesn't win the nomination they're simply not going to vote. And let's not forget the senior citizen vote which Obama is going to have to figure out a way to capture from Mcain, after all Mcain is one of them. All this while distancing himself from a racist preacher and a former terrorist (aires). Nevermind his name "Obama" being a muslim one which many christians regard as a disqualifier in itself. The road Obama has to travel is not going to be an easy one.

Steve · #7 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

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Originally Posted by Sheriff

I am sure you will be given enough chance to hear his policies from him.

Golly, I can't wait...

Alex · #8 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

Every day Sheriff makes two new threads about his savior, Saint Obama. And every day not one word about Saint Barack's ultra liberal voting record,his socialist policies, or his questionable associations. Just more and more hot steaming piles of tripe about how "hope and change" are going to transform all of us to Nirvana....

TheLastBoyScout · #9 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

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Originally Posted by Sheriff

Now, what do you think Obama is better focus on? John McCain or his own particular agenda that, thus far, has changed the way politics is played in Washington DC?

Obama would be better off focusing on his own agenda. Head to head, he'll kill McCain in the debates.... he just needs to do a better job of detailing and highlighting his platform. He also needs to prepare well with counter-attacks for the accusations that he knows will come his way.

Obama hasn't changed the way politics is played in Washington....not yet anyway.

solletica · #10 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

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Originally Posted by southrnfried

Barrack H Obama has bigger problems at the moment than Mcain.

OBAMA AIMS FOR NOV. - New York Post

Many mainstream Dems don't think Obama can get any of the blue collar white vote. They want to see if Obama can win some of those states that will be hotly contested come fall. Just like Bill the longer Hillary stays in it the greater chance she has of stealing the nomination.

and when Obama does eventually capture the nomination he's going to be battling his credentials, or lack thereof. On one side you will have a united GOP on the other a splintered Democrat party. The Dem women have already made it clear if Hillary doesn't win the nomination they're simply not going to vote. And let's not forget the senior citizen vote which Obama is going to have to figure out a way to capture from Mcain, after all Mcain is one of them. All this while distancing himself from a racist preacher and a former terrorist (aires). Nevermind his name "Obama" being a muslim one which many christians regard as a disqualifier in itself. The road Obama has to travel is not going to be an easy one.

There's no way Clinton would win the blue collar vote against McCain since she refuses to iron blue collars.

MattLarson · #11 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008

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Originally Posted by TheLastBoyScout

Obama hasn't changed the way politics is played in Washington....not yet anyway.

It's hard (or perhaps, impossible) to change the game by playing it the same way all the other players do....

Matt

Sheriff · #12 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008

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Originally Posted by Alex

Every day Sheriff makes two new threads about his savior, Saint Obama. And every day not one word about Saint Barack's ultra liberal voting record,his socialist policies, or his questionable associations. Just more and more hot steaming piles of tripe about how "hope and change" are going to transform all of us to Nirvana....

And this is the tenth time that you repeat yourself, unnecessarily occupying my thread and enlarging your post number. If you have nothing of your own, keep yourself in a cozy place and find something that may carry you to the Nirvana. That's more meaningful.

Si modo · #13 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008

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Originally Posted by Alex

Every day Sheriff makes two new threads about his savior, Saint Obama. And every day not one word about Saint Barack's ultra liberal voting record,his socialist policies, or his questionable associations. Just more and more hot steaming piles of tripe about how "hope and change" are going to transform all of us to Nirvana....

And now, he bumps them without much of anything to add.

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Originally Posted by Sheriff

And this is the tenth time that you repeat yourself, unnecessarily occupying my thread and enlarging your post number. If you have nothing of your own, keep yourself in a cozy place and find something that may carry you to the Nirvana. That's more meaningful.

Sheriff · #14 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008

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Originally Posted by TheLastBoyScout

Obama would be better off focusing on his own agenda. Head to head, he'll kill McCain in the debates.... he just needs to do a better job of detailing and highlighting his platform. He also needs to prepare well with counter-attacks for the accusations that he knows will come his way.

Obama hasn't changed the way politics is played in Washington....not yet anyway.

Well, I should have said, he began to transform it.

MattLarson · #15 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008

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Originally Posted by Sheriff

And this is the tenth time that you repeat yourself, unnecessarily occupying my thread and enlarging your post number. If you have nothing of your own, keep yourself in a cozy place and find something that may carry you to the Nirvana. That's more meaningful.

Let me make this abundantly clear, Sheriff.

You do not get to decide where other members may post.

Don't try to bait other posters with this nonsense.

Matt

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