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Re: Rove Served Subpoena
Politics as usual. The democrats dont care about the attnys or ethics, they just want a campaign issues. SOmething they can get in the news to attack Bush with to distract from their nomination tanking. Maybe even Obama can get in on it and question rove!
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If I'm not mistaken, and I could be, as policy adviser to the president, Karl Rove, was not within his jurisdiction to be directly involved in the US attorney firings. Congress is within its jurisdiction to investigate abuses of office; period. Karl Rove can't evoke executive anything; that inherent privilege is exclusive to the president. The most Karl Rove can do is plead the fifth. And for the record Clinton never fired attorneys for political retribution, they were removed when Clinton took office. The Bush appointed attorneys all received positive reviews from the Justice Department, and were given no reason for their firings. Highly unusual, and do not compare to removals during the Clinton administration at all. The removal of US attorneys during an administration without cause is highly unusual. Bush appointed the attorneys, but when they proved to be too respected as federal prosecutors (i.e. apolitical), Bush replaced them with rubber-stampers, thus politicizing the Department of Justice in an unprecedented way.
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Executive Privilege is for the executive branch. Karl Rove would fallen under that.
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when the DoJ is being used as a political hatchet to prosecute imaginary crimes for political gain, which threatens to disenfranchise the voting public, can you provdie an exampple please. So, its not the firings, its whats beneath? A suspicion?
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You just agreed that they both did it to drive their own political agendas, Clinton retribution was not necessary because he made sure there never would be any case in which there would be any called for as they would be HIS appointees. Your point makes NO sense. He got rid of them because they had served the previous admin. and you know it. You really are trying to thread the needle here and torture logic out of shape. Because he waited to see if they towed his line and since they didn’t he reclieved them he is now the boogeyman? They all fire them for politics reasons but because its bush hes guilty of playing politics ..well no shit. This as nothing more than BDS.
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Justice Dept. Recognized Prosecutor's Work on Election Fraud Before His Firing Firing Iglesias makes absolutely no sense, unless of course he was standing in the way of the GOP's desire to use their fabricated voter fraud cases to make laws to combat a problem that doesn't exist that result in voter disenfranchisement. The cause and effect is clear, I believe there to be malicious intent to do irreparable harm not only to our justice system, but more importantly, to our freedom to vote.
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No individual can plan his own existence in their view. So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount. Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated. The Road to Serfdom FA Hayek (interpretation) Mortgage Backed Security survivor |
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an no offense okay but please, you are so sick at heart that republican lawyers were fired? I am sorry but remembering our past conversations etc. I am not moved by your grief in this case...come on dude....
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![]() he was smarter he just canned them all, and even IF bush was unsatisfied with these guys, and so what?
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my bad.Quote:
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Big Number of 2008 8,217,246 Obama's Margin of Victory "Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." -Thomas Jefferson Last edited by Angry American; 05-28-2008 at 02:49 PM. Reason: fixed quote code |