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Old 06-22-2008
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Re: Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS?

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That's an opinion, not an insult.
It's an insulting, and also false, opinion.

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Besides to some libs that's a positive comment.
So is that.
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Old 06-22-2008
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Re: Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS?

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There was no racist political rhetoric pumped out on a regular basis there. The rhetoric that you're calling racist, isn't. (Although it is political.) That's the point that seems to escape you. And in any case, you asserted a connection between Obama and Farrakhan and that assertion was baseless. If you're an honest man, you'll retract it now.

Oh...........please.............you don't really expect me to believe that one???

You must be one of those who believe racism is a one-way street that blacks and Liberals can never go down.
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Oh...........please.............you don't really expect me to believe that one???
Quite honestly, I don't know how I'd ever tell if you did.

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You must be one of those who believe racism is a one-way street that blacks and Liberals can never go down.
No, I'm just one of those who insists on the proper meaning of words. "Racist" implies a belief in the inferiority of one race over another, or the practice of excluding people from a public service (such as a church) on the basis of race. I've only heard one of Wright's sermons (the infamous one) and he not only did not assert that whites are inferior, he made a point several times of saying they are not. Nor are whites excluded from membership in Trinity. In fact, wasn't there a white Catholic bishop who delivered a controversial sermon there recently?

The Wright sermon was political, though. I'll give you that much, for what it's worth.

And I notice you still haven't retracted your nonsense about Obama and Farrakhan.
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Old 06-23-2008
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Re: Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS?

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Quite honestly, I don't know how I'd ever tell if you did.



No, I'm just one of those who insists on the proper meaning of words. "Racist" implies a belief in the inferiority of one race over another, or the practice of excluding people from a public service (such as a church) on the basis of race. I've only heard one of Wright's sermons (the infamous one) and he not only did not assert that whites are inferior, he made a point several times of saying they are not. Nor are whites excluded from membership in Trinity. In fact, wasn't there a white Catholic bishop who delivered a controversial sermon there recently?

The Wright sermon was political, though. I'll give you that much, for what it's worth.

And I notice you still haven't retracted your nonsense about Obama and Farrakhan.
Retract something that is true. Fat chance.

Farrakhan has had more close association with Obama then Bush had with Enron. Retract that shit first.

If you've only listened to one of his sermons you need to visit his web site.
Trinity United Church of Christ

I randomly picked a sermon from the list of videos they make available on the web and after all of the normal introductions and singing and build up to the sermon, he broke into his sermon and in the first few minutes he said the word slavery several times and even mention 'Briar Rabbit'.(Song of The South)

All he talks about is evil white masters, slavery, Civil War era crimes, and politics. I wonder if the man ever cracked a Bible in his life.
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Re: Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS?

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That's an opinion, not an insult.

Besides to some libs that's a positive comment.
Now you're really reaching.

Stop, your nationalism is bursting at the seams ...
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What gives you the impression that the documents are false?

Oh so now Obama is a liar, man you are quick to label Obama a liar, but seemingly will go to your grave before entertaining the though of Bush or Cheney being liars.

I do admit, Obama not allowing Hawaii to release his birth certificate directly in a press release is rather peculiar.
Don't get me wrong, I did not intend to lable him a liar, nor did I say the documents were false. The fact is that I don't know whether the documents are false or not.

Also I did not know that Obama did not allow Hawaii to release his birth certificate. I am very skeptical of that claim. Where did you get that information? Could you provide a source?
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Old 06-23-2008
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Retract something that is true. Fat chance.

Farrakhan has had more close association with Obama then Bush had with Enron. Retract that shit first.
It's not true, it's completely baseless, and that statement is factually inaccurate. Obama has had very little contact with Farrakhan, and the only evidence you can present for your position is that Farrakhan was once invited to speak at Trinity Church, which would support your view only if Obama himself had extended that invitation.

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All he talks about is evil white masters, slavery, Civil War era crimes, and politics. I wonder if the man ever cracked a Bible in his life.
Considering the in-depth knowledge of the book he displayed in the sermon I saw, I'd say he has. Either that or he's psychic.

In any case, we were talking about his "racist, political sermons." I contended they were not racist, although I conceded they are indeed political. And they're not racist; none of that stuff is racist.
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Re: Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS?

This entire thread is a great example of the demise of America. While the empire falls, the two petty extremes debate nonsensical issues. Obama and the state of Hawaii released his birth certificate quite awhile ago and can be viewed on several websites. But not on this thread, of course, where broken flywheels and conjecture are substitutes for facts or reason.

The broken two-party system in America has turned Americans against one another and has lowered the level of debate to the lowest common denominator where sniping and gossip talk replace intelligent debate. Pretty fucking sad.
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Re: Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS?

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This entire thread is a great example of the demise of America.
This entire post is a great example of how irrelevant Canada is. Canadians, apparently, have nothing better to do than to troll american political forums and spew the old "demise of america" bullshit - pretty fucking sad.

Its amazing how defensive some people get when they perceive thier messiah is under attack...
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Much more interesting dirt found by googling Larry Sinclair.

By the way, just because he failed the polygraph does not mean Larry is not telling the truth. Polygraphs are notoriously unreliable (unlike Larry Sinclair).
Priceless. I love your posts wrxsti - one of the few users on this forum whose posts I actually read!
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Re: Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS?

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This entire post is a great example of how irrelevant Canada is. Canadians, apparently, have nothing better to do than to troll american political forums and spew the old "demise of america" bullshit - pretty fucking sad.

Its amazing how defensive some people get when they perceive thier messiah is under attack...
I have no idea what you're trying to say. You're getting defensive because your messiah is under attack? How does that line apply to me? America isn't my messiah. I don't have a messiah.

Furthermore, I'm equally an American citizen, and I'm currently working in the US until the fall time. I think I'm going to write-in or vote for a third party candidate for the first time in my life this November.

The truth doesn't belong to one country. Truth is universal and without borders.

America is made smaller and so too are it's people with mindless discussions such as the kind in this thread. Every issue in this thread has had it's day, same with the "McCain being born in Panama" crap. But not in America, where the average mainstream voter is like a really slow kid who finds something out 6 months later and runs with it like they really really know the truth when in fact they're just a retarded kid.

While the empire crumbles, Americans are picking their asses and all too content to attack each other. It's the truth from no matter where you sit or stand.
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The truth doesn't belong to one country. Truth is universal and without borders.
Truth? What is truth? Your opinions?

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America is made smaller and so too are it's people with mindless discussions such as the kind in this thread. Every issue in this thread has had it's day, same with the "McCain being born in Panama" crap. But not in America, where the average mainstream voter is like a really slow kid who finds something out 6 months later and runs with it like they really really know the truth when in fact they're just a retarded kid.
Oh climb down from your cross, - you have no moral highground. This is a political discussion board where people discuss all things politics, don't like it? Too bad. Yeah ok, discussing rumors about candidates is going to be the "demise of America", right. Tell me, does insulting americans make you feel better about your own country?

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While the empire crumbles, Americans are picking their asses and all too content to attack each other. It's the truth from no matter where you sit or stand.
Talk about a one-track mind. Maby if you talk about America crumbling enough your wish will come true..
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It's not true, it's completely baseless, and that statement is factually inaccurate. Obama has had very little contact with Farrakhan, and the only evidence you can present for your position is that Farrakhan was once invited to speak at Trinity Church, which would support your view only if Obama himself had extended that invitation.



Considering the in-depth knowledge of the book he displayed in the sermon I saw, I'd say he has. Either that or he's psychic.

In any case, we were talking about his "racist, political sermons." I contended they were not racist, although I conceded they are indeed political. And they're not racist; none of that stuff is racist.


I guess you are clueless to what racism is then........


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"It just came to me over the past few weeks, ya'll, why so many folks are hating on Barack Obama, He doesn't fit the model. He ain't white. He ain't rich. And he ain't privileged....Hillary (Clinton) fits the mold. (Rudy) Giuliani fits the mold. Europeans fit the mold. Rich, white men fit the mold."

"Hillary never had a cab whiz past her and not pick her up because her skin was the wrong color. Hillary never had to worry about being pulled over in her car as a black man driving in the wrong … ,"

"Hillary was not a black boy raised in a single-parent home - Barack was. Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary can never know that. Hillary ain't never been called a n-----. Hillary ain't never had her people defined as nonpersons. Hillary ain't had to work twice as hard just to get accepted by the rich, white folk who run everything or to get a passing grade when you know you are smarter than that C-student in the White House."

ý "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes three-strike laws and wants them to sing 'God Bless America.' No! No! No! God damn America for killing innocent people."

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YouTube - Jeremiah Wright - Obama's mentor - Hate speech

YouTube - Rev. Jeremiah Wright hate

YouTube - Jeremiah Wright on Fox

YouTube - Malik Shabazz on Hannity & Colmes



These are some of the people that support Barrack Obama, The New Black Panthers. This is the kind of people that he encourages. He has not said word one telling these people that he does not want their support:

YouTube - re: racist black man

As long as Obama refuses to distance himself from racist comment like this:

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OBAMA: We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to make you afraid. They're going to try to make you afraid of me. (laughter) They're gonna.... They're going to say, "You know what, he's -- he's -- he's young, inexperienced, and, uh, uh, he's got a funny name. Did I mention he's black? (cheers and applause) (Obama laughs) He's got a feisty wife.
Obama Calls Republicans Racists
Obama has stooped low and thrown out the race-card hoping to start an argument about the subject and hoping to play the victim. He wants the Republicans to start acting like Democrats have been acting in the primaries. This is reprehensible.

I don't think it's going to work.
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Re: Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS?

Obama is eligible to run for the office of President.

He is just not qualified to be the President, and if elected, the policies he is promoting will ruin the economy (think worse than the Carter years, think the depression of the 30s) and possibly destroy our standing in the world as the last superpower.

Comments about the current economy or our current standing on the world stage will not be replied to. Elect Obama and Americans will really know what an economic down turn is and Americans will really know what its like when America has no standing on the world stage.

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Re: Obama ineligible to hold the office of POTUS?

Aye, this is stupid. He's as much a citizen as I am. I was born on U.S. soil, and so was he.

That's all one needs.

Isn't the Constitution great? :P

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