And your source is?

You can't hold T. Boone responsible for what radio talk show hosts say about his challenge. That's just silly, if I said goober said, would you want to be held reponsible? I didn't think so.

So what exactly was T. Boone Pickens bet?
And why does Kerry have to turn over all tapes, films and diaries to T.Boone Pickens, as well as provide proof that claims made in TV ads, (and only the TV Ads, because even T.Boone knows the Books, the print ads, the interviews were total bullshit) and only the TV ads Pickens funded.

So are we ready to denounce as liars and spreaders of false witness all the people from Oxycontin Rush, to the people who have repeated it in these forums, that Pickens offered a million to anyone who could prove any of the Swift Boat claims were false and there were no takers...........

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Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Very nice to read this posts.

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Addiction Recovery Alaska

Persistent in your ignorance, perhaps.

Actually, not really. Left unchecked, you have a tendency to claim to support the troops when it is expedient for your partisan positions.

Fortunately, there are some here who will call you on it when you try to shift away from your "pampered losers" position.

BTW, you've never answered the question of whether you consider Kerry a "pampered loser"......

Matt

You should really respond to that post in the thread it appears in.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

What's at least comforting about the left is that we won't see McCain swift-boated. McCain already got swift-boated in 2000 by his own party. They'll at least treat him with the dignity a former military person deserves.

This story is kind of like that one where neo-cons just wrote off "Farenheit 9/11" as propaganda and that Moore should be sued for libel and slander and all that other stuff. But to this day, no one took him to court because all the ugly ties to terrorism the Bush family has are accurate. I think Bush took that song "I Got Friends In Low Places" to heart.

John Kerry: Pampered Loser.....starring.......Steve Carrell.

This article states:

Letson is not named in Kerry's medical records as the "person administering treatment" for his first Purple Heart. The "sick call sheet" summarizing treatment of Kerry's wound indicates that a "J. Carreon" treated Kerry for the wound, according to both The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, as MMFA noted at the time.

There is no "sick call sheet" - that is bullshit reporting.
Carreon was the corpsman on duty who signed off after Dr Letson treated Kerry with a band aid. All of the men directly involved with Kerry's 1st purple heart (Zaldonis and Runyon) claim the wound was self inflicted and that there was no hostile fire that night. There is no after action report -which would have been repquired in the case of hostile fire, and there was no medical report because the wound was self inflicted and a minor scratch.




Swift Boat Vetrans NEVER claimed that the men opposing Kerry served UNDER him, but served alongside of him. They were all fellow officers who were duly aware of Kerry's day to day activities and were with him on patrols.
Out of 19 Swift boat skippers that are pictured with Kerry, 12 considered him unfit, 2 were neutral, two have died, and 3 supported Kerry. There were 4 other officers not in that photo - 3 of which opposed Kerry. So media matters is full of shit. The OFFICERS who served alongside Kerry are the ones the SBVT referred to and the ones that testified against Kerry.

and Gardner never claimed that he WAS present at those events, so Media Matters is great at spin and short on facts.

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"We cannot continue to rely on our military .... We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
Barack Obama, 2008

"My age group was pressured into joining although it was allegedly voluntary. But later on it was compulsory. No one could say no."
Hitler youth, Willi Demf, born 1920

actually I have done extensive research on the Kerry incidents as the controversy was a key issue during the last big election, and I am not just a lalalalala at all. There is no evidence against the SBVT that they are liars, none at all. what the SBVT have posted on their site is completely factual and testimonies from vets who served with Kerry and alongside Kerry are posted. Nothing wrong with that. Get pissed all you want, Kerry symbolizes the democratic party. Whiny, snot nosed, arrogant, elitist, excrement.

and BTW - I did not refer to anyone in the world who disagrees with me nor did I not call Time magazine a lying pinko faggot, I said they are a liberal assed rag....but if you wish to continue with your strawman BS - be my guest.

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"We cannot continue to rely on our military .... We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
Barack Obama, 2008

"My age group was pressured into joining although it was allegedly voluntary. But later on it was compulsory. No one could say no."
Hitler youth, Willi Demf, born 1920

Says you and the jerks on that website and just about noone else. If you ask me whether I'm going to take the word of some guys who came out of the woodwork in response to offered rewards by Kerry's political opponents thirty years later or the US Navy's opinion at the time the thing happened along with every other opinion offered over the years, guess which whiny, snotnose excrement I'm going to believe over a bunch of bribe taking liars. Kerry ought to sue Pickens and use the money to sue the SBVT.

and the evidence you provide that any of the SBVTS took bribes OR lied is......???
LOL

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WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!


"We cannot continue to rely on our military .... We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
Barack Obama, 2008

"My age group was pressured into joining although it was allegedly voluntary. But later on it was compulsory. No one could say no."
Hitler youth, Willi Demf, born 1920

Can you please site a non-bias source? The quote above is directly off there about us portion.

Do you take Snopes?
snopes.com: John Kerry's Service Record

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Yes, but I thought it was irresponsible of you to use the first one as your source. All the information has been around for a while now. So for this story to be brought up now hardly qualifies it as Breaking News in Politics. By the way, in the second source did not site direct sources but rather articles written by others.

It is irresponsible and the media matter BS was dismantled in post:

T. Boone Chickens


As for snopes:
SBVT claims that Kerry was unfit for President were based on his lies before the Senate in 1960's.

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WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!


"We cannot continue to rely on our military .... We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
Barack Obama, 2008

"My age group was pressured into joining although it was allegedly voluntary. But later on it was compulsory. No one could say no."
Hitler youth, Willi Demf, born 1920