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Bush speech today on lifting drilling ban

Another last ditch effort to gain more points for big Oil on his way out of the white house. This does nothing for Americans at the pump. No mention of alternative fuel efforts - no mention of the vast reserves already being sit on by big Oil. No mention of pumping those vast reserves that have already been drilled in our territories. Blames the Democratic Congress that has been in power for less than two years for the ills of a greedy Oil administration.

Same old tricks that the ignorant will rave and rally behind King Stupid and support his call to boost big Oil.



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Re: Bush speech today on lifting drilling ban

Trying to find more oil is like a drug addict searching for one last high before going to rehab. Its NOT THE ANSWER. It may feel good temporarily but the only road out is the long and painful switch to alternative energy.
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Re: Bush speech today on lifting drilling ban

Umm our government has known about the problems of foriegn oil dependency since the late 70's.
In that time we have had 15 Congressional elections and 5 different Presidents.
In that time - there has not been one decision made to help the situation.
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Re: Bush speech today on lifting drilling ban

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Trying to find more oil is like a drug addict searching for one last high before going to rehab. Its NOT THE ANSWER. It may feel good temporarily but the only road out is the long and painful switch to alternative energy.
Yes, desperation is highlighted in this speech that screams simply "more Oil" and blames Congress for pump prices without mention of any alternatives - where there are so many. The efforts from a good and pro American President should be broad sweeping all fronts in exhaustive efforts to diffuse dependency on all Oil.
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Another last ditch effort to gain more points for big Oil on his way out of the white house. This does nothing for Americans at the pump. No mention of alternative fuel efforts - no mention of the vast reserves already being sit on by big Oil. No mention of pumping those vast reserves that have already been drilled in our territories. Blames the Democratic Congress that has been in power for less than two years for the ills of a greedy Oil administration.

Same old tricks that the ignorant will rave and rally behind King Stupid and support his call to boost big Oil.



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You may want to note that Big Nancy is the only one hanging onto this chestnut. Senator Reid has seen the light among others.
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Umm our government has known about the problems of foriegn oil dependency since the late 70's.
In that time we have had 15 Congressional elections and 5 different Presidents.
In that time - there has not been one decision made to help the situation.
Incredibly well said.
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Incredibly well said.
But incredibly wrong.

First of all, it was the early '70s.

Secondly, there have been numerous decisions made which helped, including CAFE standards (at least twice), lower speed limits and tax credits for hybrids.

But he is right that nothing has been done recently (until the latest CAFE revisions).
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Blames the Democratic Congress that has been in power for less than two years for the ills of a greedy Oil administration.
I thought the democrats were going to cure all our ills in the first 100 days of taking over Congress.
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I thought the democrats were going to cure all our ills in the first 100 days of taking over Congress.
No you didn't.
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Re: Bush speech today on lifting drilling ban

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But incredibly wrong.

First of all, it was the early '70s.

Secondly, there have been numerous decisions made which helped, including CAFE standards (at least twice), lower speed limits and tax credits for hybrids.

But he is right that nothing has been done recently (until the latest CAFE revisions).
You seem to have the mistaken belief that oil is only for automobiles, as everything you mention has to do with them. One can only hope that you realize that there are other impacts, as well.

And CAFE standards are hardly the end-all. Many manufacturers, primarily European manufacturers, routinely pay penalties in lieu of meeting those standards, and they have for years...
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I thought the democrats were going to cure all our ills in the first 100 days of taking over Congress.
I think you should tone down the optimism, If you want to get through life without being disappointed all the time..
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I think you should tone down the optimism, If you want to get through life without being disappointed all the time..
Well, it doesn't help that the most noteworthy thing they've accomplished is grinding their approval rating into the ground...
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Re: Bush speech today on lifting drilling ban

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But incredibly wrong.

First of all, it was the early '70s.

Secondly, there have been numerous decisions made which helped, including CAFE standards (at least twice), lower speed limits and tax credits for hybrids.

But he is right that nothing has been done recently (until the latest CAFE revisions).
No it was the late 70's. Early 70's we were still producing a great deal of our own oil.
Secondly - no decision has been made THAT HAS HELPED us (with any real degree) to reduce foriegn dependency or alternative energy.
Nothing...nada...diddly squat.
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Well, it doesn't help that the most noteworthy thing they've accomplished is grinding their approval rating into the ground...
The list of Congressional accomplishments is as long as the list of Executive accomplishments.
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No it was the late 70's. Early 70's we were still producing a great deal of our own oil.
Secondly - no decision has been made THAT HAS HELPED us (with any real degree) to reduce foriegn dependency or alternative energy.
Nothing...nada...diddly squat.
Maybe you're too young to remember the oil embargo and gas lines of 1973 and the resulting 55 MPH national speed limit.

CAFE standards and the NSPR went a long way towards insulating us from subsequent threats. You can't call that "nothing."
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