You have yet to tell me what the various psychopaths mentioned have to do with the 2nd Amendment.

Oh, and incidentally, most of the things I listed kill far more people than guns in the U.S. That reply wasn't to you. It was to the person that suggested banning guns because of deaths caused by gun ACCIDENTS.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Wonderful, we're so in love with freedom that we let nuts slaughter our loved ones, but then we tap our phones in case we should say something unAmerican.

You cannot talk to moonbats.

Seriously, this sounds like Jon Stewart with a lobotomy. In other words, all of the ability to regurgitate leftist nonsense without any of the ability to be witty, insightful, or informative along the way.

WHO IS TAPPING OUR PHONES?

Oh, you're talking about tapping into OVERSEAS CALLS where ONE of the ENDPOINTS is a KNOWN terrorist or a KNOWN region supporting terrorists/terrorism?

So, yeah, don't say anything unAmerican - if you can actually go 34 seconds without spewing unpatriotic crap - the next time you call a mosque in Germany or Mohammad Grenadechest or whatever the fuck else they've deemed - LEGITIMATELY - as a haven of terrorists and terrorism, itself.

Don't kid yourself, Sparky, though. You aren't worth anybody's time to listen to - especially DHS' or the CIA's.

You have no concept what being at war means. You're just lucky that, for some stupid reason, WWII-era rules aren't in place. You could share a cell with Tokyo Rose for all I give a shit.

At least Michael Moore is amusing to look at.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Since their is no accountability, no checks and balances of the federal gov't, and since the feds no longer need an affidavit signed by a judge to wiretap somebody, althought the feds had never been refused by a judge before, there's really no way of knowing who or what they're listening to. You say it's KNOWN terrorists, but how do you know? Or do you just blindly follow your leaders on everything? You sound like you're from China or something, honestly.

This story about mass shootings is not new in America. And it has nothing to do with guns, nothing to do with video games, movies, heavy metal, or rap. It's all about values, it's about understanding and investing better in mental health issues, and it's about America being repressed in some fundamental ways, like sex. Many other industrialized nations have stats that show that those households have as many or more guns, on average, than in America, but those people aren't shooting each other up. But those nations also have much better mental health care, and are nations who do not value violence as much. "Sticking a boot in yer ass" or "Shoot first ask questions later" is just part of the American psyche, for one reason or another.

It'll change and the shootings will decrease when an element of the nation's psyche develops into a way of understanding and being that can deal and accept with differences, instead of constantly fighting it. You can look at the gay issue in America as evidence. Gay marriage and gays in the military is such a yesterday issue that so many nations have gotten over already, but America is just now turning the corner on it. And has the country's psyche changes about that and keeps getting more accepting, violence on gays will continue to decrease.

But it all comes down to values. Look at healthcare costs in the US. The whole thing is an industry meant for profit. The capitalist machine has gone haywire and now doctor's and others profit from refusing medical care to people while insurance companies rake in record profits. If you're at the top of that industry, you're expressing your values by how you treat your fellow citizens.

Unbelievably hilarious to me how you can accuse me of being "from China" in the first paragraph and finish off with your last paragraph decrying "industry meant for profit", "the capitalist machine", and treatment of "fellow citizens". You sure you are not the one typing out of his little red book?

You. Make. Me. Laugh.

And, BTW, many - if not most - private health insurers are "not for profit".

You want a genuine legitimate scapegoat for the health care clusterfuck? Look at your leftist politicians and the power they've given lawyers to fuck up health care costs. Hell, you almost nominated one of those schmucks.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Since when do we let people slaughter our loved ones? Have you seen anyone argue that what the guy did was right?

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

uhhuh..yep. I feel really, really safe knowing that this is the kind of person the 2nd Amendment has meant to be heavily armed so as to protect my rights from whomever he and he alone deems to be threatening them, including me.

Really, thank you so much, you've probably done more for the cause of gun control than any 10 posts I could make.

Only as far as the moonbat crowd is concerned. But, then again, you had them at, "Hello!" Or should I say, "Hellllllllllllloooooooo, sweetie! Barbra's on Oxygen Network tonight!"

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

I didn't say we approve, but we make little real effort to stop people like him. It's more important that we're able to fantasize being Rambo.

These weenies that always cry about the armed public (whenever some nutjob decides to kill people) must have been dropped on their heads as babies. In their fragile eggshell minds, a whack job would just concede if he couldn't get his hands on a gun (shit, couldn't buy a gun at the store, guess i'll go bowling instead )
The pipe dream of disarming America in 2008 is for those incapable of intelligent thought. It won't work people, there will always be a black market for guns, andd this is the place most criminals and nuts obtain theirs. You could close all the manufacturers down and their would be new made, black market guns available withing a month or two.


And JD, here's your Texas rootin'-shootin' guntotin' tale, unzip and see if you can find a similar pair.......

John Lott's Website: Concealed handgum permit holder's intervention in Texas shooting may have saved lives

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Dammit, we're not talking about being fucking RAMBO! We're talking about having the right as a non-criminal, American citizen to protect ourselves and our families from the less savory characters out there who go bonkers and try to kill people. Don't you get it? It's not about running around with a machine gun saying "yah bro, you just try it", it's about having that little extra bit of security that could save a life, and has saved thousands of lives. I'm sorry, but I'm not in the business of protecting crooks at the expense of the populace.

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Josiah

The post underneath this one is a lie.

Perhaps you could trouble yourself with actually answering the question I asked?

"if you feel there is a culture of crime in Australia"

Culture of CRIME, not MASS MURDER.The USA also has 15 times as many people. I'd like to see where you get your stats regarding our mass shootings and those of Australia.Where do you get your statistics?I told you. Most likely it's luck of the draw.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

This last guy, and just about all of the mass killers before him, had no criminal record. He and they were no less savory than you and I, and by all your rights no less entitled to a gun

Don't YOU get it? You can't shoot people with guns that AREN'T THERE. Ask the Japanese or the Singaporeans.

ALL guns start life as legitimate weapons, they have to come from somewhere, if the guns were gone and completely illegal, yes, SOME people would still be able to get a VERY FEW but it would be far, far less than we see now.

If guns were, and had been for some time, completely illegal and their possession brought a VERY long jail sentence, how would an unemployed mechanical engineer with no criminal history or contacts go about getting one? How about a failed student? These people would probably end up getting arrested in our present society if they tried to obtain a gram of cocaine, how would they get a gun if possession of same got you 25 to life? They wouldn't, very likely, even know who to ask or where to begin.

Criminals, (and again NONE of the 'whack jobs' as you put it, have had any criminal or mental record of any significance anyway) cannot, as you all seem to think, simply pluck guns from the air. Japan has 1/3 the population of the US but something like 45 times a smaller murder rate, (that's RATE not overall numbers, so population isn't really a factor)

And I've yet to hear of ANY mass killings by samurai sword

And as to John Lotts website, yeh, rite, sure you don't sit around mastubating as you clean them, hoping desperately some 'criminal' will burst thru the door. You guys would be really funny if you all weren't so pathetic.

JD, you're in over your head. If the mfg of guns were outlawed, you would see a new breed of gun for the criminal, an easily manufactured, fully automatic weapon that would sell for chump change, probably closely based on the STEN SMG. How would one find one? Pretty easy, you find drugs, you can connect to the weapons.
I did notice that you decided not to challenge my assessment of what a ridiculous pipe dream it is to think that the USA could be disarmed, other than the lame ramble about how the gun supply would dry up.........like outlawing rolling papers would stop people from smoking pot.. Ever hear of supply and demand?

So you think that people that think their lives and the lives of their loved ones are worth protecting are "pathetic"???????? That is exactly how we feel about people that would willingly rely on law enforcement to protect them. That is totally laughable.
You dial 911 and hope for the best, I'll start firing.
You could always tell the criminal what a "VERY long jail sentence" he will face if he doesn't cut and run, why the police are on the way........

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