All this talk of "specifics on policy" stuff in this thread is hogwash. A speech like she gave isn't supposed to outline specific policy by specific policy by specific policy. The subtext gives a broad outline of "that vision thing," as 41 would say. It gives direction. It's written to connect to the American people, not policy wonks. And in that it was very effective.

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Andy
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No, the budget was just fine after the first 4 years of the Bush Administration. It was not until the democratic controlled congress took over that we built up a deficit. Bottom line, is that the democrats spend more than the tax dollars make. You knot heads can't even balance a check book.

That's cute, but.... Image:Reported Deficits vs. Debt Increases - 2007.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We were in the money until Bush hit office.

So soaring is completely wrong. By his argument that the effect of the democrats in congress is 4 years old that was when the deficit started to reduce.

In fact he's spewing total rubbish.

And that is precisely the problem. The election will be won on "vision" not fact and the US will be governed based on "vision" not fact.

The result is not good as the past few years have proven.

QUOTE=Soaring;1284122]No, the budget was just fine after the first 4 years of the Bush Administration. "

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/NPGatew

know i know why he got reelected with this financial record. US republicans and their voters do not even know about the desaster they create. Mc Cain does not even know how many houses he has and also his other economic comments show so he fits to the economic profil of the party


"It was not until the democratic controlled congress took over that we built up a deficit. Bottom line, is that the democrats spend more than the tax dollars make. You knot heads can't even balance a check book.[/QUOTE]"

I am a foreigner perhabs i don not understand the irony of your comment.
The OECD just published th enew US deficit predictions messured by international standarts for this year. It´s 5,5 to 6 % of the GDP.

Every fiscal and economic conservative should not even think about voting for the republican party. The good news is your children and grandchildren will have to pay the bill for Bushs foreing policy and spending policy.

He increased the debt about four trillion dollars fom 5,6 to 9,6. So he managed to create nearly as much debt as all US preseidents before combined. That´s about 160 billion every year just to pay the rates (not to pay it back). I wonder how the american people think about his foreign policy if they had to pay the bill for that by an extra war tax but know future generation can pay the bill.

But you really have balls to discuss financial policy as a republican supporter why not talk about arbortion gun rights or gay mariage. Economy and fiancials are too complicated and need a certain knowledge facts and not just strong faith. This is not your business

Some of the truth stretching from the RNC

Attacks, praise stretch truth at GOP convention - Yahoo! News

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

Don't they know that things like this are easy to check and the only people they are fooling are their base.

So we're not smart enough to understand the issues?

Let me tell you this, the issues don't involve how many houses a candidate owns.

So until you learn to stop falling for silly campaign tactics maybe you should stay out of this discussion.

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No, Bush policies and the Republican Congress were shrinking the deficit when the Dems won the majority.

It was somewhere around $150 bil, down from around $500 bil.

It had been shrinking to the point where it would have gone into a surplus by this year......but the Democrats have been doing everything they can the last year and a half to increase the deficit.......just so they could crow about it to the press and the press could crow about it to the world.

It's kind of hard to start chipping away at the national debt when you're spending more then you're taking in.

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The press wants everyone to be specific in their speeches at the RNC, putting the listener to sleep with the details.....giving the press something to make fun of.

Everyone knows you can't spell everything out, there is always something you will not be able to cover.....and our wonderful press will mention that, but they overlook the fact that Obama advertized that he would be specific in his acceptance speech and that his speech for the first time would be a "Conversation with the people".

Obama didn't get specific on any issue. What he did was do what he usually does. So Obam lied.

What struck me was how Obama supporters said that Palin used personal attacks against Obama. I guess the fact that Obama has no experience and no accomplishments worth noting feels personal. I would be embarassed too.

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Oh i know that. Just my sense of Humor.

Given the fact that there is no reasonable way to defend the BUsh and republican fiancial policy it is clear that you have to take this.

What i really found interesting is how the GOP handle the economy and fiancial issue at the convention. Every speech has only one topic the economy and the financial situation of the US.

I think the american people at the moment are really interested in the bad media topic and have no other problems and with a debt of nearly 10 trillion and a new record deficit and all the other economic issues at the moment.

It is really so good to the republicans understnad the economic challenges ahead and making this their major topic. Mrs palin underlines that in her speech where she clealry benefits from her experiance as a economic giant and all together i think they really can continue the good work of the Bush adminisrtation where at the moment round about every US taxpayer pays 3500 Dollars every year just to pay the rates and given the fact that 40% is Bush made i think four more republican years are really justified.

The republicans in the US showed during the last eight years great fiscal and financial wisdom and you ar ethe party to follow here. Just continue your good work and i know there is a bright future ahead for your country.

But perhabs you better campaign against gay people and arbortion, talking about Obama being Muslem or just namecalling Osama, Nobama...and all that republican base stuff. it´s more your league and you still got the press to blame or Mc cain can simply answer asked about the economy: "i was a pow for more than five years."

Seems like that is your cup of tea.....not mine.

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

If the way our press is acting these days isn't any indication to you why you have such a lousy opinion of my country maybe you should pay closer attention to the garbage they're pumping out and question their motives.

You're not going to hear anything good about this country from our press.

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Here's the bottom line on the Palin speech, I didn't see anyone who I would want to be president on stage while she was talking.
She's a nice enough person, but I don't see her in the Oval Office, or being a 72 year old heart beat away from the oval office.
And I worry about the mental processes of a guy who would choose her for that position.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

I just want to be helpfull. When there is nothing to defend on major issues you need negative campaigning or focus on other issues

The major issue for the people in the US is the economy but the last thing Mc Cain and the republican party needs is to talk about are the economy and financial issues.

So palin was in some ways a clever pic. Her field are mainly moral and social issues anti arbortion anti gay straight conservative base issues.... If Mc cain for example would have nominated Romney the economy and financial issue would have been more in focus but there you will clearly lose because the democrats will beat you all the way here because of Bush and his record and the present situation.