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Old 09-04-2008
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Re: Palin Speech

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It's funny, but the only people who are saying that it was a bad speech are people here on USPOL. It seems as if everyonoe else in the English speaking world recognizes it for waht it was: A damn good speech...
I thought it was a good speech. I thank the speech writers for creating it. I feel like I know her family much better now. I couldn't get enough of it from the media.
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Re: Palin Speech

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It's funny, but the only people who are saying that it was a bad speech are people here on USPOL. It seems as if everyonoe else in the English speaking world recognizes it for waht it was: A damn good speech...
True. I flipped through all the MSM sites this AM, and found nothing but praise for a her speech.

What's even funnier is the poster who so often says Americans are 'too stupid to [fill in the partisan blank]', is now spouting about Americans are too smart to be fooled by this speech.

The irony is truly delicious, especially since I have yet to hear any reports that she gave her speechwriter head so that she was ensured to have a great speech.
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Old 09-04-2008
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Re: Palin Speech

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A POW and a Hockey mom don't deserve to lead America just because of those designations.

John McCain is a hero and that deserves my respect and gratitude, but not my vote.

Liberals like me?

Tell me this: I want to cut spending and reduce the size of the bloated federal gov't, which Republicans have expanded over the last 8 years. Is that Liberal to you?

I want a national energy strategy with a strong component having to do with conservation. Is that Liberal to you?

I want to stop borrowing billions of dollars from China and Japan and get the books in order. Nothing liberal about that.

The Republican argument in this election is that McCain/Palin are saviors the conservatives have been waiting for. Gov Palin tonight railed against the Washington establishment, which I laughed out loud at, since McCain is a part of that problem.

They say "Cut Taxes" and "Cut Spending". Okay then. What the fuck are they proposing?

Not one of their minions on here can explain to me what they would actually do, what they would cut.

Go ahead, attack me some more to deflect from the fact that you have no fucking clue what you support. Says something about you, not me, because I argue for fiscal restraint all the time, and on conservatives this falls on deaf ears.

Your are promoting and worshiping Obama: a candidate who will slam the economy with a parade of massive tax increases at a time when the US economy is fragile. He is specifically targeting the business world, reflecting the crude stupidity and arrogance of the left at it worst - turning American business into the enemy.

McCain has little that is new to offer. Neither does Palin. But they have more appeal than would be expected because so many people are understandably worried about the far left taking over the economy and smashing it to pieces.

So there's no need to tell anyone here that you are not on the left. That is about as convincing, and as absurd, as your claim to be "post-partisan">
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Old 09-04-2008
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Re: Palin Speech

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I thought it was a good speech. I thank the speech writers for creating it. I feel like I know her family much better now. I couldn't get enough of it from the media.
I thought it was a very good speech as well. . .

Edit: I forgot to add the fact that she's a MILF
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Old 09-04-2008
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Re: Palin Speech

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True. I flipped through all the MSM sites this AM, and found nothing but praise for a her speech.

What's even funnier is the poster who so often says Americans are 'too stupid to [fill in the partisan blank]', is now spouting about Americans are too smart to be fooled by this speech.

The irony is truly delicious, especially since I have yet to hear any reports that she gave her speechwriter head so that she was ensured to have a great speech.
I agree, your words are funny, and ironic.

theyre also a death knell for the 'Liberal elite Media' etc etc
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Old 09-04-2008
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Unenthusiastic? I thought it was like watching the crowd at an Univ of Alabama football game.
This is quite true, regardless of how badly Alabama has sucked ass in the last few years.
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She did exactly what this type of speech calls for.
I'm not saying she didn't do that.
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The investigation of which you speak is over her attempts to have a State Trooper supervisor fired, for refusing to fire a subordinate that is accused of, among other misdeeds, tasering his own 10-year-old stepson. If that is true regardless of his status as a former brother-in-law, the guy is not fit for police work.
I've worked many DV and divorce OSB (officer stand-by) and can't tell you how many charges I have heard issued against men that are made up. I don't know the specifics in this case. This guy may be the real-deal sack of human crap. There is no way that either you or could know this.

Regardless, that's besides the point. Her former son-in-law is irrelevant. If she used the power of her office to unsucessfully influence, and then fire, someone who wouldn't do her bidding, she will be, and stay with me here, a disgraced felon.

Exactly part and parcel of what most conservatives, it would seem, want today.

Is that clear?
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Old 09-04-2008
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By the way, it was a good speech. She was able to use the media talking points about herself to good effect.

Didnt offer much in the way of policy, but thats ok as the ticket is more about defending the past in the end than changing the future.
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Old 09-04-2008
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This is an abomination for the Republicans. They have said absolutely nothing about what the plan is. They are going to own their failures fo the last eight years. You can only talk so much about McCain and expect to win votes.
The speech was a shrewd success, and it doesn't matter what she or anyone else says about McCain.

How is it possible that you and the other lefties on the forum do not know this?

Contempt and anger and condescension are no substitutes for knowledge. You have to understand how the opposition thinks - and you seem to have no undrestanding in how Republicans think. You don't even express interest.

The Beloved One is the focus of this campaign. Palin went after all the vulnerable areas for Democrats - both the stereotypes and the real issues, and there is often overlap.

The left is so arrogant and contemptuous of conservatives that they have forgotten that there are real concerns out there.

Obama has never given the slightest indication that he understands that the world is a dangerous place.

How will he serve as commander in chief if he is a pacifist? He is stuffed with love - love that pours out and floods the universe. This is all very well as a joke, but how will he serve as head of the military?

How will his huge tax increases effect the economy? Or rather, how will they hurt the economy?

How will people who are not on the left fit into the world of Obama and his leftist friends?

These are genuine questions. The Democrats turn away from them with amused contempt.

Palin comes out and slams them on all these things.

The problem is that she - and the GOP - do not really have a positive message. That is probably enough for them to lose.

But it is nevertheless a close race. And Palin's speech is the clue as to why: if you care enough about polutics to listen and think seriously.
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Old 09-04-2008
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Edit: I forgot to add the fact that she's a MILF
I believe that the correct term is VPILF:

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Old 09-04-2008
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Re: Palin Speech

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she does have a wonderful image that seems appealing, hopefully the country remembers that mccaint is running and not her.
It's wonderful if you're a hardcore religious conservative. I agree with whoever it was that said she'll help to shore up the Christain conservative vote for McCain and that it isn't going to bring any moderates into the Republican fold.
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Old 09-04-2008
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Re: Palin Speech

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I heard a no-bullshit lady saying what was on her mind. She didn't sugar coat anything and, yes, she spanked Obama, especially with her "Mayor/community organizer" comparison...
Well, hell, we just disagree. I listened to tired, easily dismissed party rhetoic, preached to the typcial bottom-end of our nation, social conservatives, typical busy-body bullshit that will not, under any circumstances, stand true to her/their rhetoric.
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To be fair, though, these speeches are nothing more than preaching to the choir. The Dems did the same thing. There's nothing wrong with it, it just is what it is.
This is true
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And there were plenty of Republicans who were enthused after that speech...
This is also true.

The hilarious thing is, there will never be enough of them.

I'm no Dem, but I will be quite pleased when this corrupt POS goes back to the hinterlands. Maybe the suckers there will buy her utter bullshit.
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So, because there are empty seats, it equates to the speaker's message not being a solid one? If ratings are down, it means it was a shitty speech?
By definition, to the masses, a most assured yes.
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What it tells me is that a lot of people didn't hear a damn good speech...
Again, we disagree. He speech was, frankly, pandering shit. I watched it, it sounds like you did, but most people in this country spared themselves the pain of sucking on her cold afterburners.

She sucked.
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I've not heard anything like that about McCain. As for her being under investigation, so what? That certainly doesn't negate he viability as a candidate...
Whatever, man.

If it goes through, she's a felon. Just like a lot of people in power now. Do you, uh, like felons ruling over you? I know I don't.
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When pasts are compared, Obama and Biden are going to get the shit-ed of the stick, primarily due to Obama and his acquaintances.

I hope the idiot left completely dismisses her...

G'head. Tell us all about Obama's 'acquaintances'.

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The speech was a shrewd success, and it doesn't matter what she or anyone else says about McCain.
Agreed. Some interesting, get to the heart of it comments here.

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How is it possible that you and the other lefties on the forum do not know this?
They do, they just mean successful in different ways, re the wider public.

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Contempt and anger and condescension are no substitutes for knowledge. You have to understand how the opposition thinks - and you seem to have no undrestanding in how Republicans think. You don't even express interest.
Hmm. Very common complaint.

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The Beloved One is the focus of this campaign. Palin went after all the vulnerable areas for Democrats - both the stereotypes and the real issues, and there is often overlap.

The left is so arrogant and contemptuous of conservatives that they have forgotten that there are real concerns out there.
They feel those concerns are answered.

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Obama has never given the slightest indication that he understands that the world is a dangerous place.
The Dems dont run on a fear agenda, it contradicts hope. For me personally the fear agenda makes Americans look silly.

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How will he serve as commander in chief if he is a pacifist? He is stuffed with love - love that pours out and floods the universe. This is all very well as a joke, but how will he serve as head of the military?
Probably very well. A loved America will get more done and thus make a safer america and world. Are you sure you know what the left thinks?

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How will his huge tax increases effect the economy? Or rather, how will they hurt the economy?
Hmm, huge is a strange term. marginal taxation is not hurtful to the economy. The 50s and 60s seen much larger taxation and rapid growth. Didnt do so bad in the 90s either.

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How will people who are not on the left fit into the world of Obama and his leftist friends?
Weird question. The usual way. How did the left fit into Bush's world? That said, I doubt Obama will bother trying to alienate the right. All he has to do is leave their guns alone and stake out an energy plan and theyll be fine.

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These are genuine questions. The Democrats turn away from them with amused contempt.
Actually, theyll answer them, the trouble is they disagree with many of the assumptions in these questions so it takes time to get past that.

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But it is nevertheless a close race. And Palin's speech is the clue as to why: if you care enough about polutics to listen and think seriously.
Agreed. For me it really has become a choice between Hope and Fear.
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Old 09-04-2008
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Re: Palin Speech

Before I start, can I just ask you a question?

Are you fucking kidding us?

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The speech was a shrewd success, and it doesn't matter what she or anyone else says about McCain.
McCain is irrelevant here. I see you don't understand that, other than the fact that he picked a live time-bomb, like himself, to fill shoes that he himself can't.
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Contempt and anger and condescension are no substitutes for knowledge. You have to understand how the opposition thinks - and you seem to have no undrestanding in how Republicans think. You don't even express interest.
Trust me, I have great knowledge, as do most here. Tell me: why has she been utterly shielded from press interviews up until and including right now?
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The Beloved One is the focus of this campaign. Palin went after all the vulnerable areas for Democrats - both the stereotypes and the real issues, and there is often overlap.
Stereotypes and issues overlap? Care to indulge us with what you actually mean, dispensing with such BS?
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The left is so arrogant and contemptuous of conservatives that they have forgotten that there are real concerns out there.
Of course. Because this administration hasn't fucked anyone but the wealthy up in their asses, w/out the benefit of Vaseline, for 8 years. Go ahead and talk about those 'real issues'.
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Obama has never given the slightest indication that he understands that the world is a dangerous place.
Really? That's why he said he's bolster our troops in AFG? That's why he want's to send them into PKG? Do you tire of telling flat-out nonsense?
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How will he serve as commander in chief if he is a pacifist? He is stuffed with love - love that pours out and floods the universe. This is all very well as a joke, but how will he serve as head of the military?
Nonsense. He would invade PKG. You fear to recognize this. Why is that?
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How will his huge tax increases effect the economy? Or rather, how will they hurt the economy?
Tell me about those tax increases. Please be very, very specific.
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How will people who are not on the left fit into the world of Obama and his leftist friends?
Who know? Why ask stupid questions?
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These are genuine questions. The Democrats turn away from them with amused contempt.
No, they're not. I've seen nothing geuine or honest yet.
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Palin comes out and slams them on all these things.

The problem is that she - and the GOP - do not really have a positive message. That is probably enough for them to lose.

But it is nevertheless a close race. And Palin's speech is the clue as to why: if you care enough about polutics to listen and think seriously.
She's done. I see no serious thinking here, or honesty, whatsoever.

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your kiddin. does he know which end to use????

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Is this woman for real? This speech sucks balls.
Danny, you're being very partisan. Anyone could see that she did a bang-up job with her speech. Skewed a buncha facts, but it was a bang-up job nonetheless.
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37 million watched the speech last night. Nice.

Three or four days of buildup vs months and months of hype, and the audiences were virtually the same.
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