LOL no offense, but neither of you are really all that reliable. I think she started out a little deer in headlights, but is hitting her stride. The question is, when will the Republicans tell Americans who care about bread and butter issues why John McCain will help them out?

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

I guarantee the media will label this speech as sub par and maybe even a disaster. She looks horrible.

You must mean Chris "I get a thrill up my leg" Mathews.

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Andy
Cynical Optimist

Well the GOP has done a good job today and yesterday of running Sarah Palin against the media, which basically means even if the speech were horrible, all we'd hear about is "liberal bias" which is a great way of not talking about the speech or answering any hard questions. Something that worked for Bush in 2000 and again in 2004. The problem this time around is that, in a week, it won't really be about Sarah Palin. It'll be about John McCain again, we hope. How long can Sarah Palin be the flag bearer, she's the Veep.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Yeah, the choir does seem to like what it's hearing.

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Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush?

--Hunter S. Thompson

at least you are admitting you have no idea what you are talking about.

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she does have a wonderful image that seems appealing, hopefully the country remembers that mccaint is running and not her.

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This is an abomination for the Republicans. They have said absolutely nothing about what the plan is. They are going to own their failures fo the last eight years. You can only talk so much about McCain and expect to win votes.

She's going after Obama in ways that are somewhat effective and in ways that are not. I just don't think Americans buy this Obama hates America, Obama wants our troops to lose and Obama is evil line anymore. When you think back on Invesco field, that was full of incredibly patriotc Americans who all lover their country. It wasn't the "liberal elite" it was everyday people with everyday problems. I also don't understand why she's attacking the community organizer bit, that appeals to the base, but aren't church leaders community organizers? Aren't the people they talk about in terms of faith based organisations "community organizers"? I don't get how you can claim you are for faith based community service and then bash community organizers as they tend to be the ones at the forefront of community service groups. Which is it? Is service good or not?

Good Points: The attacks will get undecided independents thinking again, that's good. She sounded decent enough on energy, as she should coming from Alaska. And she told her story well. I am very curious how this plays. It's strong in some ways, but I don't see what kind of productive work the speech is doing to expand the McCain electorate.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

She's doing an effective job, the job of VP is to attack the opposing candidate and she showed she can do it, at least in this kind of environment.

However, I thought she overdone it. There are advantages and disadvantages to being a woman VP, I thought she didn't milk the advantages enough and in the end, appeared more hostile than inviting. If she keeps this persona she'll turn off a lot of the on-the-fence voters.

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Faith in a holy cause is a substitute for the lost faith in ourselves. The less justified a man is in claiming excellence for his own self, the more ready is he to claim all excellence for his nation, his religion, his race or his holy cause.

-- Eric Hoffer.

It's true. The country is in the toilet and it's all Barack Obama's fault!

Oh, please, Danny. There is absolutely nothing she could have said or done tonight that wouldn't have drawn that response from you.

Matt

You also can't run before you walk. There may be alot of reasons why executive experience is better for an in-coming President (though I think the vast differences between Bill Clinton and George Bush's Presidencies actually indicate that it's a bit of a wash). But this speech is once again, showing the Republicans don't get it about the electorate. People are tuning into this speech to learn ABOUT Sarah Palin, the vast majority of Americans don't know taco about her. And so, while her experience may be vast and extensive and greater than Obama's it's a bit odd to have an unfamiliar politician telling you they are more experienced than one you've gotten to know over the last year and a half, even if you haven't been following the election. I don't know if they thought how this would play at home to everyday Americans past the opening section which was her bio.

And yes the Veep is supposed to be an attack dog, but Joe Biden did not attack McCain's life and biography, Palin went after him real personally. And do you really want to energize Democrats. You're trying to appeal to them I would think. I don't know...odd.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Palin gave an excellent speech. I will admit that I am impressed.

I think that she will do fine through this campaign. She's not going to back down from anyone, and she makes her own points very effectively. She is an asset to the Republican ticket.

But, as good as she seems to be, it won't make any difference. The problem with the McCain-Palin ticket was never in the number two spot. and even a likeable, feisty "hockey mom" can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

No, I they're clearly digging their heals in, and the tone they're striking is "You're With Us Or You're Against Us!". Their base is finally excited now, and she showed some balls tonight, but it'll take some time to see if waging a war on the media will work. So the base ought to be quite happy and relieved by her performance tonight, but it'll be interesting to see what happens with moderates.

And to see if McCain/Palin can adopt this message of "Change" coined by Obama and run on that instead of the experience McCain has been running on for the last few months.

What's clear is that we're seeing a culture war in America now.